Perry Turtle Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 It was good to see that after 5 tries they seem to have the backup QB position heading in the right direction. And after season and a half it was good to see some speed at the WR and KR/PR positions. So better late than never. With the bye week and Allen returning, maybe they can start building and adding to their defense success. Win as many games as possible, target the 10-15 spot in the draft and trade that down for as many day 1 and 2 picks as possible. Build the offense next year and let the defense do their thing. 1
Utah John Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, cgg716 said: It’s gotta be Allen. Nothing can be accomplished by starting Barkley That's reasonable but a lot of rookie QBs do benefit from watching instead of trying to survive. What about the other question -- do Peterman and Anderson get cut, or just Peterman?
yungmack Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Utah John said: That's reasonable but a lot of rookie QBs do benefit from watching instead of trying to survive. What about the other question -- do Peterman and Anderson get cut, or just Peterman? Just Peterman, if any of them do. Anderson's job looks to be mentoring Allen.
Haslett_Stomp Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: All this game does is confirm 100% what a very large majority of our fans knew. Without legit QB play you are absolutely ***** in this league. Barkley just gave us one of the better performances the Bills have seen since Orton. Our O-line magically appears to be great Our RB's look like pro-bowlers Our Wr's look NFL caliber. Excluding KB Until we get consistent QB play like seen today we will continue to blow. Let's go Allen! Barkley is now a decent back up plan. ^ this. Add to that that the defense was legit today. I was skeptical based on their performance against McCown in NY last year. Good to see Shaq Lawson coming into his own.
Just Joshin' Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Utah John said: So when Allen is healthy, (1) does he play or watch, and (2) do we go with just Allen and Barkley for the rest of the year? Who is the future? Why would you start Barkley and deprive Allen of the needed experience?
WideNine Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 He has made some typically poor moves that defensive-minded coaches make. The question is whether he learns from those mistakes. I think you give this front office time to clear the dead wood and cap, and see if the foundation they lay with draft picks and FA signings starts trending in the right direction.
ProcessTruster Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, cgg716 said: Thought he did some good things to cross up their D. Best game he has called to date. It was the jets though, let’s see if he can string it together Daboll carved up a good defense today with a guy who was throwing on some high school field 2 weeks ago. nuf said.
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 Congratulations to the Bills today on the win.
CSBill Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, cgg716 said: I KNOW they cut Mccarron, named Peterman the starter, replaced him after one half, and left him as the only backup for weeks. Those things I know. And I know he’s still on the roster, though let’s hope that changes tomm McCarron was traded 1
cgg716 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Posted November 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Daboll carved up a good defense today with a guy who was throwing on some high school field 2 weeks ago. nuf said. He also didn’t score a TD for a month. And put up 6 against NE. It’s been more bad than good. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves Just now, CSBill said: McCarron was traded True. Doesn’t change the mismanagement
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, cgg716 said: It’s a nice win, feels good to have one. Did many good things, but also something interesting came to light I think. This is not a tank and it never was. A QB came right off the street, limited playbook and played a competent game. Easy opponent sure, but competent nonetheless. Blaming the talent holds a little less weight now To me it’s proof that they were attempting to win all along and honestly believed, first that Mccarron couldn’t, then that Peterman could, then Anderson. Didn’t see fit to retain or acquire a true no 2 QB behind Allen at a minimum. Not because they weren’t trying to win, but because they honestly thought they had one. So I still worry about how they will handle the rest of the offense. Cross your fingers Lucky, your opinion doesn't matter to me, but thanks for sharing
PeterDude Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 It shouldn't, he's been involved in many blowouts, too many of them on the losing side.
Bill_with_it Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 Sometimes its best not to double down on a previous bad decision...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Tanking in the NFL does not mean you literally try to lose. You shed overpriced contracts and accumulate draft picks, which leads to a couple bad years. Of course we still game plan and try to win each game, but if you think we are selling out to win with $50 million in dead cap and a rookie QB you're nuts. The coach is never tanking, he's always trying to win with whatever he has. The GM, he can easily be looking down the road and as you said shed contracts, etc.. Does that mean McD hasn't been consulted on every roster move, certainly was on board. But when Sunday rolls around McD and even Beane to a lesser degree are trying their hardest and doing everything they can to win.
longtimebillsfan Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, cgg716 said: It’s a nice win, feels good to have one. Did many good things, but also something interesting came to light I think. This is not a tank and it never was. A QB came right off the street, limited playbook and played a competent game. Easy opponent sure, but competent nonetheless. Blaming the talent holds a little less weight now To me it’s proof that they were attempting to win all along and honestly believed, first that Mccarron couldn’t, then that Peterman could, then Anderson. Didn’t see fit to retain or acquire a true no 2 QB behind Allen at a minimum. Not because they weren’t trying to win, but because they honestly thought they had one. So I still worry about how they will handle the rest of the offense. Cross your fingers I doubt anything would erase your concerns. McDermott coached a team that over achieved to the playoffs in his first year. This was to be a tear down year to get out from under our dead money. We could win five or six games this year. Your expectations are unrealistic.
BillsFan4 Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Tanking in the NFL does not mean you literally try to lose. You shed overpriced contracts and accumulate draft picks, which leads to a couple bad years. Of course we still game plan and try to win each game, but if you think we are selling out to win with $50 million in dead cap and a rookie QB you're nuts. Thank you! Well said. It is a rebuild, plain as day. They felt that that in order to ever have a chance at being a great team that can compete year in and year out, they had to make some serious changes to the way things were done at One Bills Drive from top to bottom. They wanted to build this team with a specific type of player and establish a specific type of culture, and that meant taking a step back, clearing out the guys that weren’t on board or didn’t fit and cleaning up the cap mess (we were nearly a cap team even though our best season in about 2 decades was 9-7) while accumulating picks and building through the draft. I, for one, am glad to see the Bills finally get away from half measures and bandaid fixes. Fhis is new regime has been very aggressive in their vision and I am anxious to see how it works out. You have to give them some time, though.
Dadonkadonk Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 Honestly this game only adds further fuel to the fire of McD not being able to judge talent. Teller looked better than Ducasse and Miller in preseason and looked fine but not stellar today. McD has chosen Peterman over TT, AJ, and Allen. Wrong x 3. Jury is still out on Daboll. Gaines started how many games before he was cut. He never made a play all year. Multiple other players have been better at CB. Foster is the only guy that can get deep and he cut him and risked losing him. Yes it was a low risk but again it shows he doesn't judge talent well. Lawson looks better each week and better than PED Murphy has ever in a Bills uniform. Murphy doesn't even deserve a roster spot. 20 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: I doubt anything would erase your concerns. McDermott coached a team that over achieved to the playoffs in his first year. This was to be a tear down year to get out from under our dead money. We could win five or six games this year. Your expectations are unrealistic. Dead money he created because he couldn't or didn't want to coach Dareus and Watkins.
Watkins90 Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, cgg716 said: It’s gotta be Allen. Nothing can be accomplished by starting Barkley What if the light came on for Barkley and we have the next Drew Brees?
BADOLBILZ Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: Tanking in the NFL does not mean you literally try to lose. You shed overpriced contracts and accumulate draft picks, which leads to a couple bad years. Of course we still game plan and try to win each game, but if you think we are selling out to win with $50 million in dead cap and a rookie QB you're nuts. To "tank" is by definition to "fail completely". In sports......it is to INTENTIONALLY fail completely. The same people saying that the team is tanking this year said that they were tanking last year...........you were wrong both times.
Kmart128 Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 Well it's not just a new QB. We had new guys playing on line. Sirles and Tellar. We had faster receivers with Foster, Pryor and McKenzie. And a new backup RB with Murphy. So it wasn't just one new addition. It's amazing how much our offense can open up with better pass protection and recievers who could gain separation.
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