If McDermott doesn't start Barkley against Jacksonville he should be Fired

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

[CLTbills]

Good god, here we go again. 

You're going to redo your entire QB depth chart over one game? A game against the Jets? And say that the coach should be FIRED if he doesn't do what you want him to do? 

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Sometimes I think certain posters start stupid threads because it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside to start a thread that gets a lot of replies.

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, GreggTX said:

Barkley is a known commodity and he couldn't make the Bengals roster this year. He has a 2-5 record as a starter and poor stats overall. I'm not ready to just hand the job over to him based on just 1 game. Too many posters here judge players on just a few good or bad games.

 

I could make the same argument about Allen. He hasn't shown much so far. Now he has an excuse...he's a rookie, and a raw one. Don't forget Barkley was highly-touted in his draft year, and he's not that old. I don't buy the argument that Allen has to start right away. Where he was drafted means nothing. In fact if he really is your guy you owe it to him to give him every chance to succeed. Throwing him out there to see if he can swim is not doing that.

Edited November 13, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[Tcali]

On ‎11‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 5:58 PM, billsfan11 said:

Fair. But I’m just saying there was a reason he was on the couch. He’s a career backup/3rd stringer

..sure played a great game though...-I do see your point however

[26CornerBlitz]

On 11/11/2018 at 8:58 PM, billsfan11 said:

Fair. But I’m just saying there was a reason he was on the couch. He’s a career backup/3rd stringer

 

The reason was he hadn't been cleared to play until a week before the Bills signed him due to knee surgery back in the preseason. 

[BillsFan130]

29 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

The reason was he hadn't been cleared to play until a week before the Bills signed him due to knee surgery back in the preseason. 

Ya that’s true.

 

But he was going to be the Bengals 3rd stringer even if he didn’t get hurt. Jeff Driskoll or whatever his name is beat him out for the backup job

[Domdab99]

Yet another stupid thread with absolutely no logic or sense. 

[Rocky Landing]

Some of the same people who have argued that Peterman was “set up to fail” (literally, by playing him) are arguing that Allen should be put

in the exact same position. 

 

Interesting...

[Codyny13]

First day back after a 30 suspension...I read this..I wish I was still suspended.

[millbank]

There is no argument that the team needs see what they potentially have in Josh and there are now six games remaining and counting . Only the coaches know the dynamic in the room.  I do believe success and effort should not be rewarded by the bench. Yes the quarterback position the most important going forward , but it is a team game it’s about all of them .  Just don’t any of you start crying about him not doing as well as you may think he should . There will be ups and downs . Likely more downs than ups . It’s my opinion he is likely a couple of years away from getting to be what they need . Not so sure what consequence a nothing game in November will be . Hopefully next season the unit he is working with will be drastically changed . 

[78thealltimegreat]

One good start Rob Johnson ring a bell? 

[longtimebillsfan]

I was going to write something glib, but what is the use.  .....this is a ridiculous thread.

[RosenNOTchosen1]

Barkley should start against Jacksonville IMO.

 

What if he has another performance like he did against the Jets? 

 

Only way to find out is play him... We can always go back to Allen later on in the year. 

[reddogblitz]

I would ride the Barkley horse until when/if we lose a game.  Then if Allen is 100% heAlthy, put him back in.

[Wayne Cubed]

On 11/13/2018 at 9:34 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I could make the same argument about Allen. He hasn't shown much so far. Now he has an excuse...he's a rookie, and a raw one. Don't forget Barkley was highly-touted in his draft year, and he's not that old. I don't buy the argument that Allen has to start right away. Where he was drafted means nothing. In fact if he really is your guy you owe it to him to give him every chance to succeed. Throwing him out there to see if he can swim is not doing that.

 

Actually he wasn't highly touted at all in 2013, hence why he went in the 4th round in a very bad 2013 QB class. In 2011 he was projected to be the #1 overall pick in the 2012 draft, he elected not to come out that year and decided to go back to school, that year he was highly touted. His stock fell pretty dramatically before the 2013 draft, he had some very average/poor performances in the 2012 season and then he injured his shoulder. The problem was/is, much like Peterman, the arm strength just wasn't/isn't there. He floats a lot of his long throws, that hang in the air.

 

Could he be successful in a WC quick read/throw type offense, possibly. The problem is he needs the players around him to succeed.

[Matt_In_NH]

Said with raging emotions of a thirteen year old.  

[T master]

Don't be jumping the gun like Ralph did with Rob Johnson !! Sure Barkley looked awesome in that game & i can't understand why he was out of work as long as he was but i also can't figure out why Anderson was brought in or why AJ was let go so there are a lot of why's to this years decision making when it comes to the QB's on this team .

 

As it was said by the coach Allen will start if healthy & seeing as he was pushed into that & also that the year is basically for all intense & purposes a loss keep him in & get him some game time reps to see what he's got & by the end of the year they will know if he could be just a back up or a possible starter .

 

Next year go into it with Allen , Barkley & another draft pick or a younger FA to start OTA's & see where t takes us !! 

[Figster]

9 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

Actually he wasn't highly touted at all in 2013, hence why he went in the 4th round in a very bad 2013 QB class. In 2011 he was projected to be the #1 overall pick in the 2012 draft, he elected not to come out that year and decided to go back to school, that year he was highly touted. His stock fell pretty dramatically before the 2013 draft, he had some very average/poor performances in the 2012 season and then he injured his shoulder. The problem was/is, much like Peterman, the arm strength just wasn't/isn't there. He floats a lot of his long throws, that hang in the air.

 

Could he be successful in a WC quick read/throw type offense, possibly. The problem is he needs the players around him to succeed.

Do you consider Buffalo's O a good supporting cast? because I sure don't yet Barkley looked better in the passing game then any Bills QB I have seen over the last 3 years IMO. Good QB's can make average WR's look good and thats exactly what Barkley did vs Jets IMO. Albeit was just one game, but If you can do it once it can be done again in my humble opinion.

 

I'm curious to see If Barkley can sustain good play because he appears light years ahead of Allen operating the Daboll O. 

 

[LSHMEAB]

12 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I was going to write something glib, but what is the use.  .....this is a ridiculous thread.

Still a glibISH response without much effort. Nice.

[Tenhigh]

On ‎11‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 11:35 AM, leonbus23 said:

Obvious hyperbolic satire!

Not at all.  In fact, the end was cutoff due to SDS's draconian character limits.  The original read:

"If McDermott doesn't start Barkley against Jacksonville he should be Fired out of a plasma cannon directly into the sun"