Patrick Duffy Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: What does this matter so did Jamarcus Russel. How’d his arm help him Lets just hope Allen's career goes the complete opposite as J. Russel's lol
Rebel101 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Patrick_Duffy said: Lets just hope Allen's career goes the complete opposite as J. Russel's lol Lol we can only hope. I think he is way more determined and Russel also got way more money and probably felt like he was set for life. He clearly didn’t love the game the way I think Allen does
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Looper said: No doubt - right up there with Cunningham, Elway, Harris & Uncle Rico. No. No. No. Yes. It's that rarified mountain air. Right over those mountains. No doubt in my (or his) mind. 2
mrags Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 I haven’t seen any deep balls he’s thrown in the NFL games that have proven he has a strong arm. He’s thrown a few lasers. But nothing deep that puts me in awe of his incredible arm. Mahomes on the other hand has thrown some bombs that have made my jaw drop 2
Rebel101 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, mrags said: I haven’t seen any deep balls he’s thrown in the NFL games that have proven he has a strong arm. He’s thrown a few lasers. But nothing deep that puts me in awe of his incredible arm. Mahomes on the other hand has thrown some bombs that have made my jaw drop And they were actually completions 2
mrags Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Rebel101 said: And they were actually completions Parts of that aren’t his fault because Foster couldn’t locate a football the size of a 757 coming right at him. But still, his arm in his deep throws has been underwhelming so far imo. Even the ones he’s had, they have been underthrown. 1
BullBuchanan Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Lafromboise said: Discuss. I believe he blew by mahommes velocity record. Allen doesn't even have the strongest arm in the league right now, except maybe in shorts.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 He has one of the strongest arms ever. I have no idea if he will ever be a good NFL QB. 1
NoSaint Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, mrags said: Parts of that aren’t his fault because Foster couldn’t locate a football the size of a 757 coming right at him. But still, his arm in his deep throws has been underwhelming so far imo. Even the ones he’s had, they have been underthrown. Do you think that’s an issue of strength or accuracy? Under throwing can EASILY be poor anticipation or placement on balls that could’ve been thrown further
mrags Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Do you think that’s an issue of strength or accuracy? Under throwing can EASILY be poor anticipation or placement on balls that could’ve been thrown further I get your point, but there is no evidence to support anything at this point. All I can go by is the fact that multiple throws have been underthrown and leading me to wishing there was more. I’m a fan of Allen, and Hopefully I’m wrong, but evidence suggests otherwise. I also do do not belive in McD and believe anyone under his tutelage will fail. So my hope is pretty much out the window with Allen. Edited November 10, 2018 by mrags
NoSaint Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, mrags said: So far, all I can confirm that multiple throws that are supposed to be deep, leading his WRs intobwhat would hope would be a long TD; have been underthrown. I get your point, but there is no evidence to support anything at this point. All I can go by is the fact that multiple throws have been underthrown and leading me to wishing there was more. I’m a fan of Allen, and Hopefully I’m wrong, but evidence suggests otherwise. I also do do not belive in McD and believe anyone under his tutelage will fail. So my hope is pretty much out the window with Allen. Im not feeling particularly optimistic about McD or his development of a project qb... but I do generally believe allen can throw the ball a mile without accounting for accuracy. That’s the only reason I brought up the question.
mrags Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Im not feeling particularly optimistic about McD or his development of a project qb... but I do generally believe allen can throw the ball a mile without accounting for accuracy. That’s the only reason I brought up the question. I used to belive that too. Except evidence points to the facts that when he has tried to throw it deep so far this year, his passes have been underthtown. Hopefully its just a mistake in accuracy. Hopefully he needs to learn to plant his feet. Hopefully whatever it is, can be coached. But I have no faith in this coaching staff helping him through that. And I have serious doubts that it’s not just him not being able to throw the ball a country mile like we all previously believed. Hopefully im wrong. I really like Allen and want him to succeed. He was my number 1 choice coming out because of his physical attributes. So far I’ve been wrong.
Augie Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, The_Dude said: Does it matter? Certainly not when it’s broken.....? Get well, Josh! Then show us what you got.
Ronin Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Lafromboise said: Discuss. I believe he blew by mahommes velocity record. Discuss? OK "Strongest Arm in teh league" Worst yards-per-attempt in the league too. Too bad that our braintrust doesn't understand that the vast majority of pass plays are short-medium. There's WAY too much emphasis placed on arm-strength by people that should understand football much better than they do and who get paid to understand it as such. 1
Bangarang Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 Having a strong arm is great and all but if the QB can’t process what’s going on in front of him or doesn’t have the ability to make accurate throws then it doesn’t matter.
1st&ten Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, jrober38 said: Who cares? LaFromBoise
jrober38 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, The_Dude said: Does it matter? It sure didn't for JP Losman, Kyle Boller, Jamarcus Russel and Josh Freeman, among others. 1
1st&ten Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, mrags said: I used to belive that too. Except evidence points to the facts that when he has tried to throw it deep so far this year, his passes have been underthtown. Hopefully its just a mistake in accuracy. Hopefully he needs to learn to plant his feet. Hopefully whatever it is, can be coached. But I have no faith in this coaching staff helping him through that. And I have serious doubts that it’s not just him not being able to throw the ball a country mile like we all previously believed. Hopefully im wrong. I really like Allen and want him to succeed. He was my number 1 choice coming out because of his physical attributes. So far I’ve been wrong. That's a concern---that this coaching staff, will start screwing with his mechanics & screw it up. Different staff but remember the year they made a big deal in preseason about improving Fritz's mechanics & he played worse. Apparently Josh did well when Palmer was working with him before the draft, that's why I wish they would bring in a proven QB coach.
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