Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: So there is no threshold. Individual thinking can not be counter-productive for the group? make sure and do me a favor... let me know when they come for you so i can pretend to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: TDS much? Hypocrite. Same thing you accuse me of with indentured servitude you do with wanting our leaders to coalesce power. Just now, Foxx said: make sure and do me a favor... let me know when they come for you so i can pretend to care. I would never want you to care. I am a big boy. They come for me, I can handle it. Sorry Snowflake, try again. 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Sometimes what was old is new again. AOC and her brand might just make it legal to jail you for reasons beyond just tax evasion. Baloney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Hypocrite. Same thing you accuse me of with indentured servitude you do with wanting our leaders to coalesce power. strawman. please .... where have i ever, ever stated that i want our leaders to coalesce power? i am anarchist. the gift of another strawman for you to build upon. your doing quite poor at this. Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Theft of service = tax evasion. Not racking up debt. 1 minute ago, Foxx said: strawman. please .... where have i ever, ever stated that i want our leaders to coalesce power? i am anarchist. the gift of another strawman for you to build upon. By implying I have TDS. Can t speak out against demagoguery? That (not speaking out) leads to power grabs. 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: i am anarchist. At least We are getting somewhere. This I can respect. It's immoral and selfish, but I can at least respect you for admitting your deplorable behaviors. Edited January 6, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wage slaves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: By implying I have TDS. Can t speak out against demagoguery? That (not speaking out) leads to power grabs. are you saying that your previous post about installing a king was not in any way referenced to Trump? do i have to go find the post where you spoke of this? sure, you can speak out against demagoguery i encourage it. however it usually works better if the base upon which one stands is not built upon a demagoguery. Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 minute ago, /dev/null said: Nice. Who would thought the Basket of Deplorables would whine to this song. So Snowflake-esque. Play that for the NFL players is like playing that for the Average American. LoL... Trust the Process©. 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: are you saying that your previous post about installing a king was not in any way referenced to Trump? do i have to go find the post where you spoke of this? sure, you can speak out against demagoguery i encourage it. however it usually works better if the base upon which one stands is not built upon a demagoguery. No. You seem to want one person calling the shots. That's how Trump operates. That's not TDS on my part. That's being Anti-American on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: Krugman's right. 70% tax rate is fine, because absolutely nothing in the world economy has changed since 1945. This will all be fine. Nothing bad would come of it. I mean hell, at one point in the 50's, the tax rate for the top earners was 98%! It worked back then, there's absolutely no reason to think it wouldn't work now. Because the world economy is exactly the same! 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c3154e9e4b0733528336e49 "But what does Ocasio-Cortez know about tax policy? “A lot,” said the headline of an opinion piece Saturday in The New York Times by Nobel economics laureate Paul Krugman. A similar tax rate was imposed in the U.S. for 35 years after World War II, which included some of the “most successful periods of economic growth in history,” Krugman wrote. Tax cuts for the ultra wealthy mean far less to them than cuts for people with modest incomes, Krugman noted. And extra money in millions of hands boosts spending. “A policy that makes the rich a bit poorer will affect only a handful of people, and will barely affect their life satisfaction, since they will still be able to buy whatever they want,” Krugman wrote" Krugman's MAGA plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: ... At least We are getting somewhere. This I can respect. It's immoral and selfish, but I can at least respect you for admitting your deplorable behaviors. oh boy. i don't think you understand that which you speak of. not really surprising considering the voluminous display of your underpinnings down here. an anarchist advocates for the classless, self-governed societies based on voluntary, cooperative institutions, rejecting unjust hierarchy. or perhaps something you might better understand, free associations. but other than that... yeah it's pretty immoral and selfish. idiot. again, with all due respect.... 5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: ... No. You seem to want one person calling the shots. That's how Trump operates. That's not TDS on my part. That's being Anti-American on your part. you really are dense aren't you? Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: So there is no threshold. Individual thinking can not be counter-productive for the group? That is absurd, and profoundly anti-western/American. Individual thinking is the cornerstone for any progress. Putting a cap on it is regressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: ... I would never want you to care. I am a big boy. They come for me, I can handle it. ... you're off your rocker this morning....are you that addled that you do not understand what i am saying? or are you just feigning ignorance??? Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: you really are dense aren't you? He has over 38k posts in his tenure here. If you add up the total IQ points in all of those posts combined, you're still well below triple digits. He's not a deep thinker. He's not even a thinker. He vomits words onto the keyboard and pretends he's trolling when he gets called out for his nonsense. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: He has over 38k posts in his tenure here. If you add up the total IQ points in all of those posts combined, you're still well below triple digits. He's not a deep thinker. He's not even a thinker. He vomits words onto the keyboard and pretends he's trolling when he gets called out for his nonsense. i don't enjoy the previous display of discourse but my god..... sometimes you just have to say that ***** stinks to high heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 The old federal tax rates that began to be fixed by JFK and further fixed by Reagan were tempered in a huge way by a bunch of tax write-offs. The middle class didn't have high tax rates but the very wealthy had tax rates of up to 90%. They found a way around these rates by buying into income losing schemes that enabled them to reduce their income (on paper) to get their tax rates down. Comparing 1950's tax rates with today's tax rates is like comparing an Edsel to an I-Phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: The old federal tax rates that began to be fixed by JFK and further fixed by Reagan were tempered in a huge way by a bunch of tax write-offs. The middle class didn't have high tax rates but the very wealthy had tax rates of up to 90%. They found a way around these rates by buying into income losing schemes that enabled them to reduce their income (on paper) to get their tax rates down. Comparing 1950's tax rates with today's tax rates is like comparing an Edsel to an I-Phone. And in the process to gain assets. A number of farms for quite a number of years until they changed the tax laws were run at a loss but gained expensive assets along the way in buildings and equipment. Improvements were made to land including contouring and drainage that could be depreciated and the net result was the increase of land value. Edited January 6, 2019 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: And in the process to gain assets. A number of farms for quite a number of years until they changed the tax laws were run at a loss but gained expensive assets along the way in buildings and equipment. Like sport franchises. The wealthy people's 401k's. Edited January 6, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Foxx said: you're off your rocker this morning....are you that addled that you do not understand what i am saying? or are you just feigning ignorance??? I am off my rocker every morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, snafu said: Krugman's MAGA plan. It's a shame Krugman lost his mind about 18 years ago. He's now just an unabashed liberal schill pretending that he's still an economist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Come on!... What's better than a doable Socialist? https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/why-does-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-get-so-much-attention-from-the-right/amp/ https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c3154e9e4b0733528336e49 "But what does Ocasio-Cortez know about tax policy? “A lot,” said the headline of an opinion piece Saturday in The New York Times by Nobel economics laureate Paul Krugman. A similar tax rate was imposed in the U.S. for 35 years after World War II, which included some of the “most successful periods of economic growth in history,” Krugman wrote. Tax cuts for the ultra wealthy mean far less to them than cuts for people with modest incomes, Krugman noted. And extra money in millions of hands boosts spending. “A policy that makes the rich a bit poorer will affect only a handful of people, and will barely affect their life satisfaction, since they will still be able to buy whatever they want,” Krugman wrote" Sure...90% tax rates worked fine when the US had no international manufacturing competition and generated half the post-war world's GDP while supporting other major economies via the Marshall Plan. I'm sure it'll work just fine now when we're 15% of the world GDP while running annual half-trillion dollar trade deficits. How the ***** did Krugman ever win a Nobel Prize? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: How the ***** did Krugman ever win a Nobel Prize? He does have a scholarly beard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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