jrober38 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: There was nothing racist about those tweets mentioned. He never mentioned anyone specifically in those four tweets. As pointed out yesterday, people's minds immediately jumped to the conclusion that he meant those four individuals because they DO spout racist, xenophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-American, socialist rhetoric every time they are interviewed. He didn't "persuade" anyone that those four are racist, xenophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-Americans - "everyone" immediately "knew" who he was talking about. Why? Because they are racist, xenophobic, anti-Semitic, socialist-loving, anti-American congresspeople. As people have been saying for a while, the Democrats do a good job of blaming others for what they are actually doing. Ugh. Telling someone to "go back where they came from" insinuates they're not welcome, and that they're different. As I said, why has Trump never once told Bernie Sanders to "go back"? Why did he just focus on four female minorities? That's where the prejudice kicks in, which makes it a racism comment. If Trump told everyone who complained to go back where they came from, you might have a point, but the fact that his prejudices forced him to single out four minority women is why the comment IS racist. They look different, therefore I believe they must be from somewhere else (3 of the 4 were born in the US), therefore my comment is a racist remark. If you just focus a specific attack on minorities, and not people like Bernie who share their beliefs but look like you look, that's where the racism develops. Like I said, if I said that in my work place, I WOULD BE FIRED because the comment is racist. Everything you said about the women is true. Congressmen or women can get away with extreme views because they represent such a small population. Donald Trump is supposed to represent all 330 million Americans. Edited July 17, 2019 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, jrober38 said: They'd probably get fired eventually. That doesn't matter though. The comment was racist. The inference of it was, you don't belong here, so go back where you came from if you don't like it my way, with the way someone looks insinuating that they're "different". Bernie Sanders is an open socialist. Why does Trump never tell him to go back where he came from? Why did he only target 4 women who are visible minorities? 3 questions: 1- who did he tell to leave? Specifically? 2- where did he mention race? 3- was there any context on his telling them to leave, or was it simply “get out” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: You do realize the the country of origin does not determine race correct? So based on your logic if I knew a black dude from Norway who constantly told me how great socialism is there and how sucky our country is and I told him to go back to where he came from that remark is racist. And also based on that if we worked together I should get fired?? Quite the flawed argument wouldn't you say? Is that what happened here? Did Trump tell 4 Norwegians to go back to Norway? Keep trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Ugh. Telling someone to "go back where they came from" insinuates they're not welcome, and that they're different. As I said, why has Trump never once told Bernie Sanders to "go back"? Why did he just focus on four female minorities? That's where the prejudice kicks in, which makes it a racism comment. If Trump told everyone who complained to go back where they came from, you might have a point, but the fact that his prejudices forced him to single out four minority women is why the comment IS racist. They look different, therefore I believe they must be from somewhere else (3 of the 4 were born in the US), therefore my comment is a racist remark. If you just focus a specific attack on minorities, and not people like Bernie who share their beliefs but look like you look, that's where the racism develops. Like I said, if I said that in my work place, I WOULD BE FIRED because the comment is racist. That is where your prejudice kicks in. That is your interpretation of those tweets, which simply do not say what you (or the MSM) are claiming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: That is where your prejudice kicks in. That is your interpretation of those tweets, which simply do not say what you (or the MSM) are claiming. Why has Trump never told Bernie to go back to where he came from? He and AOC share all the same views, yet Trump has never attacked him the same way. Edited July 17, 2019 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 A Different Take on Trump’s Tweet Storm About ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen By William Sullivan FTA: Yes, Trump used the opportunity to troll Pelosi, and forced her to rush to the defense of the same the group of people that had, just days before, denounced her as a racist, and who have been (and will continue to be) campaigning for her ouster. That’s all hilarious, sure. But the question is, will Americans miss the larger point Trump made in the noise created about the tirade being about “the Squad,” or being racist somehow? I don’t think so, because such expressions as Trump’s aren’t uncommon in discussions among Americans today, as anyone outside of a leftist media bubble or a college outrage mob would know. What is being discussed among Americans are ideas, and we Americans still like the American ideas of free markets, individual liberty, and limited government. As a good friend of mine from Texas wrote to me on Monday: As far as Omar goes, Trump is 100% right. You had to flee point A to go to point B because obviously B is better. Then you complain about B and actively work to make B different from what made it better than A in the first place. If you want to change something so bad, then change A. Race doesn’t have anything to do with that. This is the crux of Trump’s tweets. Race, in an objective view of this discussion, is nothing more than a red herring, and any suggestion that those tweets are racist is just smoke to hide the underlying truth -- the Left wants to fundamentally transform America, and is working to normalize the notion that it’s somehow noble of us to import enough people who can allow them to do so. But the Left must be relying upon that smoke for 2020. Consider that, in swing states, Ilhan Omar boasts a 9% approval rating, according to a recent poll. A national platform of a prominent Democrat being “ashamed” of living in our national “hypocrisy” may not play as well in those states as Trump’s believing that America is “the greatest nation” on the planet, or that the principles which have long guided our country should be preserved. Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/a_different_take_on_trumps_tweet_storm_about_progressive_democrat_congresswomen.html#ixzz5twq9orkf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: Why has Trump never told Bernie to go back to where he came from? Ask President Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: Why has Trump never told Bernie to go back to where he came from? He and AOC share all the same views, yet Trump has never attacked him the same way. AOC is a freshman, as are the other three. Bernie has been in DC since before Trump was on reality TV. It's an important distinction. Trump has never been shy about attacking Bernie. He just finds different ticks and nicknames for all his targets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, DC Tom said: The shampoo bottle line is great. I probably would have gone with "warning labels on Pop Tarts," but his is better. He's telling people to ignore the instructions on the shampoo bottle! That's endangering children! That's racist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 BillsChan racist enablers out in full force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Why has Trump never told Bernie to go back to where he came from? He and AOC share all the same views, yet Trump has never attacked him the same way. How do you know he didn't mean Bernie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Why has Trump never told Bernie to go back to where he came from? He and AOC share all the same views, yet Trump has never attacked him the same way. There are literally hundreds of house members that share similar views that are not attacked by the president 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: AOC is a freshman, as are the other three. Bernie has been in DC since before Trump was on reality TV. It's an important distinction. Trump has never been shy about attacking Bernie. He just finds different ticks and nicknames for all his targets. I don't buy it. Trump says if anyone doesn't like it, they can leave and go back where they came from. There's no reason Trump should only be singling out minorities with that take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, McGee Return TD said: There are literally hundreds of house members that share similar views that are not attacked by the president Name 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, unbillievable said: How do you know he didn't mean Bernie? Because he specifically mentioned "4 Congresswomen", and I believe he also referred to them as "The Squad", which has been the nickname attached to the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 This weeks Newscycle: Trump: “There are anti-American congresswomen and if they don’t like America, they should leave.” Congresswomen: “We’re the anti-American congresswomen he’s talking about, and this is like, totally racist.” Trump: “Yep- there’s the anti-American congresswomen. Good job with self identification.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, unbillievable said: How do you know he didn't mean Bernie? I know you're dumb but your boy literally told everyone what they already knew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I don't buy it. Trump says if anyone doesn't like it, they can leave and go back where they came from. There's no reason Trump should only be singling out minorities with that take. Forget they have darker skin pigmentation. Shesh. Take your prejudice and bigotry out of the equation. Now, go re-read those three tweets. Edited July 17, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I don't buy it. Trump says if anyone doesn't like it, they can leave and go back where they came from. There's no reason Trump should only be singling out minorities with that take. But that's because you're only snipping the tweet where it suits your argument. You're ignoring the rest of it, where he calls for them to come back and show them how it's done. You're also ignoring the fact he didn't identify any of the women by name -- yet they all knew who he was speaking about based on just calling them anti-American progressives. Trump's won this round. (Mainly because the left has made calling people "racist" meaningless... which is ***** dangerous if you walk it all the way out. Ask yourself why the party of "tolerance" would work so hard to minimize that word...) Edited July 17, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Is that what happened here? Did Trump tell 4 Norwegians to go back to Norway? Keep trying. He didn't specify who he was talking about. If you don't see the flaw in your "IT'S RACIST!!!" tantrum then I can't help you. I'm sorry but you were the only ones that saw skin color. We all saw ideology. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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