plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: I’m tripping on the irony of the fact that your inaccurate paraphrase has 100% more race mentions then the original text.... 1 hour ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: After years of the left invoking "Whitey bad", I don't think 'racist' carries the same weight it used to with rational thinking people. The professional outrage mob has made people numb to it. Lets accept that at face value(which i do not), does not mean racism does not exist 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Dont worry guys, I’ve created an anthology of all the posts and comments in this thread that directly reference skin color... now we can really see who the racists are. Obviously trumps tweet is quoted because it directly speaks of skin color and other race based qualifiers... wait... *****. I don’t know what happened.... This is some master level logic here...Vincini would be proud. I am sure you are just getting started!
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 "Socialism's goal is communism" Lenin One leads to the other. Communism is the goal, they're just too dishonest to admit it. 2 1
RochesterRob Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Lets accept that at face value(which i do not), does not mean racism does not exist This is some master level logic here...Vincini would be proud. I am sure you are just getting started! I don''t think that Gavin is saying racism does not exist but the issue is overplayed. 1
/dev/null Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 14 hours ago, DC Tom said: Every time he tweets like this, the first question I ask is "What is he distracting attention from?" My guess is he is trying to deflect coverage away from the upcoming Mueller testimony and Epstein hearing. #fakenews already knows Mueller's testimony will be a big nothingburger so they would have otherwise spent this week spinning up their false narratives that although Mueller's testimony won't implicate Trump, Trump is still guilty of #orangemanbad stuff Meanwhile #fakenews has been in damage control mode over the Epstein case So now the #fakenews is focused on Trump v Pelosi vs AoC & Crew. That will all come to a sudden halt once Mueller raises his right hand. Rather than expecting an outcome based on a weeks worth of #RussiaRussiaRussia #orangemanbad #resist, people will see Mueller's testimony as a non-event. Followed a day or so later by the details of Epstein's hearing and the possible naming of names. Maybe even some of everyone's "faves"... 1
plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: "Socialism's goal is communism" Lenin One leads to the other. Communism is the goal, they're just too dishonest to admit it. attack them with all guns a blazing on their ideas, attack them aith your above quote and call them dishonest..all great.. that is America! That was not what this was...not even close 12 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I don''t think that Gavin is saying racism does not exist but the issue is overplayed. and i agree to some extent....but to say Trump can say and tweet whatever the hell he wants cause some have used the race card to much?
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: "Socialism's goal is communism" Lenin One leads to the other. Communism is the goal, they're just too dishonest to admit it. Right there is why I always hated the Beatles. 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: attack them with all guns a blazing on their ideas, attack them aith your above quote and call them dishonest..all great.. that is America! That was not what this was...not even close Well, it certainly wasn’t racism. It was completely consistent with the President’s “America First, American Exceptionalism” rhetoric that he built his campaign on. No one is attacked or disparaged because of their race, or even their nation of origin. The only issue I take with it, is that it was completely politically inept; as it disrupted a public cannibal dinner at DNC headquarters, and will be spun as racist by people who see racism everywhere or require the President and their political enemies to be racist. 1
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: This is some master level logic here...Vincini would be proud. I am sure you are just getting started! Well, I've always considered myself more of a Fezzik, but I'll take it. Here's some logic for you: Criticizing someone's ideas and intellect is not a form of racism- no matter what color they are. Here's another: Making statements about people's heritage is not inherently racist. Here's another: Telling people to go back to their place of origin because their ideas are bad and because they hate the United States is not racist. Here's another: Racism is negative treatment of people based solely on their skin color and their national or racial makeup. Here's another: If I am a black man and call a white man/woman an idiot because he's intellectually lacking, I am not a racist. If I am a white man and call a "Brown" man/woman dumb because they are intellectually lacking, I am not a racist. Here's another: If person A calls person B out for being intellectually lacking, and person C see's this and assumes that person a is doing so on the basis of race, with no actual reason to assume that, the person in the situation with the issue dealing with race is person C. Edited July 15, 2019 by whatdrought 3 1
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, KRC said: You make racist comments, you will be called a racist. I judged you wrongly. Be well.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: attack them with all guns a blazing on their ideas, attack them aith your above quote and call them dishonest..all great.. that is America! That was not what this was...not even close I was responding to Graham's comments, not Trump's tweet. 1
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Right there is why I always hated the Beatles. Never trusted Zeppo Marx either
B-Man Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Never trusted Zeppo Marx either Why did he pick on me ?
Taro T Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1st off, like 50-75% of 45's tweets, this one was cringeworthy. And, it was fairly predictable that it would be interpreted as being racist. But, what he actually said (as opposed to what people interpreted what he said) doesn't seem to be racist. (Although it would be interesting to know how many Congresswomen have migrated to the US; only know of 1 ottomh for certain (Omar).) He had to have known that the tweet would be interpreted as being racist. Really not sure what he was going for by sending it out. Because it seems to be more of a shoot himself in the foot moment than his usual stuff. Do expect that his base (and many others as well) will like the 'rather than be here complaining about how horrible the US is, why not go to the place you come across as expressing more loyalty towards and make that a better place and THEN work on 'fixing' here' sentiment but, like so much else he tweets, it was more divisive than necessary and seems to have been counterproductive.
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 It is kinda funny if you read this thread going back a few pages. There seems to be three camps: 1) "Rayyyyyycccccist" because #OrangeManBad 2) Trump being Trump 3) Higher plan And reading those media articles linked here and elsewhere, the media also are divided into the same three camps. (I am in camp 3 as I think he stirred the pot for a reason.) No real point to this post, just an observation 2 1
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It is kinda funny if you read this thread going back a few pages. There seems to be three camps: 1) "Rayyyyyycccccist" because #OrangeManBad 2) Trump being Trump 3) Higher plan And reading those media articles linked here and elsewhere, the media also are divided into the same three camps. (I am in camp 3 as I think he stirred the pot for a reason.) No real point to this post, just an observation I really don’t care enough to be in any of the groups, I just get pissed at group 1’s insisting that whatever they deem racist is racist. The link DR posted a few pages back detailing how it could be an attempt to draw the left back together and push the implosion down the road a couple months makes good sense, but I usually don’t give Trump that much credit. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: I really don’t care enough to be in any of the groups, I just get pissed at group 1’s insisting that whatever they deem racist is racist. The link DR posted a few pages back detailing how it could be an attempt to draw the left back together and push the implosion down the road a couple months makes good sense, but I usually don’t give Trump that much credit. Few people give him much credit, and yet here he sits, political "neophyte" who took on the GOP establishment, the Clinton Machine, and the MSM to become President of the United States. 2
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Few people give him much credit, and yet here he sits, political "neophyte" who took on the GOP establishment, the Clinton Machine, and the MSM to become President of the United States. Yup! And he’s definitely good at what he does... sometimes it seems like he takes his trolling stchick a bit far in light of the upcoming election, but I enjoy the show. 1
KRC Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It is kinda funny if you read this thread going back a few pages. There seems to be three camps: 1) "Rayyyyyycccccist" because #OrangeManBad 2) Trump being Trump 3) Higher plan And reading those media articles linked here and elsewhere, the media also are divided into the same three camps. (I am in camp 3 as I think he stirred the pot for a reason.) No real point to this post, just an observation I agree that he stirred the pot for a reason, but I am not sure that the end result will give what he wanted. 3
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