4merper4mer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 36 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Raising the federal minimum wage, single payer health care, restoring some provisions of Glass-Steaggle, paid family leave, federal legalization of weed, abolishing for profit prisons, and campaign finance reform aren't exactly radical ideas. Free college, universal jobs guarantee, right to housing on the other hand.....yikes. Commie health care is absolutely a radical idea in a capitalist country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: As I'm sure you'd like all jobs to be state jobs. No, because you should have to work to get them like you suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No, because you should have to work to get them like you suggested. So, the ultimate goal is a state job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: So, the ultimate goal is a state job? Completely up to the individual. Obviously you can make a lot of money in the private sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: You pry have no problem with people working their ass off to get decent paying state jobs with public unions negotiating top notch health care benefits for their employees then. Working their ass off? What public employees are these you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: Working their ass off? What public employees are these you speak of? To get the jobs. Not Keep the jobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: To get the jobs. Not Keep the jobs. That's the issue. Obtaining a state job allows a sense of security that should never be. There are those of us who believe in merit, not just to get the job but to keep it. At some point in time those of us who have to keep working to bring home the bacon will decide enough is enough and not give a damn about insuring the pensions of the state workers. It'll start in California and then move to Illinois and New York. The state has over played its hand and sometime in the next decade or so theshit will hit the fan. I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: That's the issue. Obtaining a state job allows a sense of security that should never be. There are those of us who believe in merit, not just to get the job but to keep it. At some point in time those of us who have to keep working to bring home the bacon will decide enough is enough and not give a damn about insuring the pensions of the state workers. It'll start in California and then move to Illinois and New York. The state has over played its hand and sometime in the next decade or so theshit will hit the fan. I can't wait. It depends what job you get. I've found for the most part the teachers that get tenured continue to work just as hard after. It's just the way you're wired. My father worked his way up from a plant utility engineer at a prison to plant superintendent over 35 years working a lot of overtime to increase his pension. I knew at 16 to get into the NYS pension system and I always intended to get a state job and got my Masters and CAS with the intent of working for the public school system as a school psychologist. I worked a full time job as a night shift custodian at a school for seven years to pay my way through college in order to obtain it. My question to those who complain about the benefits and security that come with state jobs is why didn't you get one then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 This woman might be the dumbest politician ever, which saying something when you have the likes of Pelosi, Schumer and Waters diapering up politics as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It depends what job you get. I've found for the most part the teachers that get tenured continue to work just as hard after. It's just the way you're wired. My father worked his way up from a plant utility engineer at a prison to plant superintendent over 35 years working a lot of overtime to increase his pension. I knew at 16 to get into the NYS pension system and I always intended to get a state job and got my Masters and CAS with the intent of working for the public school system as a school psychologist. I worked a full time job as a night shift custodian at a school for seven years to pay my way through college in order to obtain it. My question to those who complain about the benefits and security that come with state jobs is why didn't you get one then? Because it's unethical and predatory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It depends what job you get. I've found for the most part the teachers that get tenured continue to work just as hard after. It's just the way you're wired. My father worked his way up from a plant utility engineer at a prison to plant superintendent over 35 years working a lot of overtime to increase his pension. I knew at 16 to get into the NYS pension system and I always intended to get a state job and got my Masters and CAS with the intent of working for the public school system as a school psychologist. I worked a full time job as a night shift custodian at a school for seven years to pay my way through college in order to obtain it. My question to those who complain about the benefits and security that come with state jobs is why didn't you get one then? Those pensions have no sustainability and bleed the life out of the average citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It depends what job you get. I've found for the most part the teachers that get tenured continue to work just as hard after. It's just the way you're wired. My father worked his way up from a plant utility engineer at a prison to plant superintendent over 35 years working a lot of overtime to increase his pension. I knew at 16 to get into the NYS pension system and I always intended to get a state job and got my Masters and CAS with the intent of working for the public school system as a school psychologist. I worked a full time job as a night shift custodian at a school for seven years to pay my way through college in order to obtain it. My question to those who complain about the benefits and security that come with state jobs is why didn't you get one then? Some people like being productive members of society. Some like State pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Joe Miner said: Some people like being productive members of society. Some like State pensions. Pensions funded by taxpayers need to go away. The majority of people contributing to the pensions of government workers can't fund their own retirements very well but are required to fund those of government workers. It's economic slavery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Brown Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Joe Miner said: Some people like being productive members of society. Some like State pensions. Mine as well privatize everything then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Mine as well privatize everything then. Excellent idea! Privatize everything that the constitution doesn't mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 8 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I mean, when youve got nothing else to do post fake memes. Well done NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 https://babylonbee.com/news/aides-force-ocasio-cortez-to-watch-entire-run-of-schoolhouse-rock 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 ....................... So.................much.....................fear.....................LOL . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) On 11/26/2018 at 6:46 PM, Boyst62 said: I mean, when youve got nothing else to do post fake memes. Well done NPC. 2 hours ago, B-Man said: ....................... So.................much.....................fear.....................LOL . Hmm... The white males don't seem organized. Edited November 29, 2018 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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