Best Player Available Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, May Day 10 said: what "high quality" coaches are they going to get? How is the pay going to be? Sounds like a dead end. I wonder what the over/under on seasons this league plays? 1or2
Mark Vader Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 9:42 AM, May Day 10 said: Dallas, St Louis, Houston, LA, DC, Tampa, Seattle, New York I'm shocked that the Bay Area did not get one. When the XFL was first around, the San Francisco Demons had a strong following and many fans went to those games.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'm shocked that the Bay Area did not get one. When the XFL was first around, the San Francisco Demons had a strong following and many fans went to those games. They’ll need one now to replace the Oakland/L.A./Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders. Come to think of it, the replacement team could probably play the Raiders straight up.
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 3 hours ago, May Day 10 said: what "high quality" coaches are they going to get? 3
Mark Vader Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: They’ll need one now to replace the Oakland/L.A./Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders. Come to think of it, the replacement team could probably play the Raiders straight up. Exactly! This was a perfect scenario for the XFL.
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 On 11/8/2018 at 1:17 PM, LeGOATski said: Whaley is a great pro-personnel evaluator. Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory.
Bangarang Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, harv shitz said: Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory. Pro scouting and college scouting are not the same thing.
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, harv shitz said: Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory. Indeed, as does his picking Terrell Troup one pick ahead of Gronkowski! ? 1
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, The Senator said: Indeed, as does his picking Terrell Troup one pick ahead of Gronkowski! ? Great point. At least he never traded a #1 and then used two #1's on a very over rated receiver.
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, harv shitz said: Great point. At least he never traded a #1 and then used two #1's on a very over rated receiver. You’re right - he might not be the worst GM in Bills history. That distinction has to go to either Buddy Nix or Stew Barber. .
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, The Senator said: You’re right - he might not be the worst GM in Bills history. That distinction has to go to either Buddy Nix or Stew Barber. . I kinda lump he and Buddy in together, as they were two peas in a pod. I barely remember Barber, was still pretty young during his tenure.
billsfan89 Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 I think the XFL 2020 could work if they make it more of an unofficial development league looking to fill the niche market of winter/spring football. I think they have the right idea in giving themselves much more time to build the infrastructure of the league and get a coherent plan to make the league have a sensible business model. If they can actually get a decent TV deal they might stand a chance to tap sports landscape. I think they learned their lessons from the first time around hopefully. Now granted they could have learned their lessons and still fail.
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, harv shitz said: I kinda lump he and Buddy in together, as they were two peas in a pod. I barely remember Barber, was still pretty young during his tenure. Barber was the guy that drafted Tom Cousineau #1 overall (using the #1 pick they obtained from the 49ers for O.J. Simpson) then failed to pick him up at the airport, failed to take him to his hotel, failed to take him to dinner, failed at everything. Cousineau was upset, his agent was infuriated. Cousineau went to the CFL. (The silver lining is, that when Cousineau returned to the NFL after his CFL contract was up, the Bills promptly traded his rights to Cleveland for a first round pick, which we used to draft Jim Kelly.)
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 I remember the Cousineau pick, and him never signing, but never knew about the failures that went with it. Interesting.
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, harv shitz said: I remember the Cousineau pick, and him never signing, but never knew about the failures that went with it. Interesting. Quite a difference from the treatment Terrell Owens got - private jet, dinner at Tempo, finest hotel, so much wining and dining that Owens decided to stay another day and called his wife to come and look at available homes for sale. The Bills sent a private jet to bring her here! .
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 Wow. No wonder he signed! I wish he had worked out better than he did. But, no quarterback to get him the ball
RocCityRoller Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) I don't get some of the Whaley hate. He was able to find some decent draft picks, was good at scraping the barrel for contributors and was a witch in trades. Cap management was poor. I think the XFL is making the same mistakes all upstart pro football teams make. Putting teams in solid NFL cities. Could think of some solid metros that don't have NFL football that would be great fits Some are cities burned by the NFL that have stadiums Some are growing cities overlooked by the NFL, many with stadiums And plenty of 1-3 million plus metros with no pro sports teams. I'd also target capitals to get past red tape. 2 conferences 4-6 teams each - top 2-3 records per conference get in Potential East Teams Toronto - beat the NFL into the expansion into Canada (media center for the league) Orlando - 2.4 million metro, holding pro sports teams Columbus - fastest growing metro in the midwest, supporting MLS, 2 million metro (capital) Raleigh/ Durham - fast growing 1-2 million plus metro, no pro sports (capital) Richmond - million plus metro, no pro sports (capital) Providence or Hartford - 1 million metro, no pro sports - close to major population centers (Capitals), fills the NE gap Louisville - million metro, no pro sports, fills the south/midwest gap Potential West Teams: Oakland - Football clout, has stadium, lost team, bay area presence San Diego - Football Clout, has stadium, lost team, Southern CA presence Saint Louis - Football clout, has stadium, lost team, 3 million metro San Antonio - has stadium, supports pro team, overlooked by NFL, 2.4 million metro Oklahoma City - fast growing, holding NBA team, 1.3 millon and growing Salt Lake City - supports NBA, 1.3 million metro, the 'Broncos' of the XFL Portland - supports NBA, West hub not in CA, metro 2.3 million If I've learned anything, don't put pro football teams in markets with embedded NFL teams Edited December 18, 2018 by RocCityRoller
LeGOATski Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 4 hours ago, harv shitz said: Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory. You're a ***** genius
Bill from NYC Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 11 hours ago, harv shitz said: Great point. At least he never traded a #1 and then used two #1's on a very over rated receiver. And a 4th.
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