Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Fallen

[boyst]

15 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

I understand nothing of my own behavior and bias.  I am a clown.

 

Edited January 30, 2019 by Boyst62

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

You know what is absolutely ridiculous? That so many people genuinely believe it to be in the realm of possibility that the Democrats would hide the death of SC justice and posthumously issue opinions in her name .

 

My first thought was, "Okay, people, let's be serious about this."

 

But then you think about it seriously, and you look at all the incredibly underhanded things the Dems do, and you think to yourself, "Likely? No. Possible? Yep. Pretty much."

 

Kind blows my mind a little bit.

 

100%

[BeginnersMind]

12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Horseshit. There was precedent for the Garland non vote. There's no precedent or moral necessity to keep RBG alive for political reasons.

 

We have had incapacitated justices on the court before. McKenna is one example but William Douglas's end on the court is notorious. 

 

There was no precedent for a 2-year non-vote. It was dirty pool by any measure, and non-Constitutional by many. 

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

We have had incapacitated justices on the court before. McKenna is one example but William Douglas's end on the court is notorious. 

 

There was no precedent for a 2-year non-vote. It was dirty pool by any measure, and non-Constitutional by many. 

Joe Biden says "hey, you don't know your history or how to count." 

 

[GG]

3 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

We have had incapacitated justices on the court before. McKenna is one example but William Douglas's end on the court is notorious. 

 

There was no precedent for a 2-year non-vote. It was dirty pool by any measure, and non-Constitutional by many. 

 2 years?

[BeginnersMind]

11 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

You think Garland set the bar high on politics with an SC nom? 

 

I'm guessing you were asleep during the Kavanaugh hearings.

 

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That was bad too but Thomas (given that it was a new dirty tactic and how little substance there was) and Bork (totally absurd what happened) had already been done, and were much worse in context. So I see those as worse than what happened with Kavanaugh. The Kavanaugh stuff was mostly just childish losers who didn't want to accept they didn't get their way. Not trying to downplay it, but looking at it in context, I'd call it #3 of those three messes. 

Edited January 30, 2019 by BeginnersMind

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

We have had incapacitated justices on the court before. McKenna is one example but William Douglas's end on the court is notorious. 

 

And then, of course, there's Sotomayor...

 

4 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

There was no precedent for a 2-year non-vote. It was dirty pool by any measure, and non-Constitutional by many. 

 

What 2 year non-vote?  What is this new *****wittery now?

[BeginnersMind]

1 minute ago, GG said:

 2 years?

Apologies.

[Deranged Rhino]

No way it's #3 on that list. The prevalence of social media and the internet during Kavanaugh made his 100x worse. It'll live forever in meme form, gif form, and every search result ever run on the man will pull up those false charges. 

 

 

He's terrible at this thinking thing.

[BeginnersMind]

14 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

You know what is absolutely ridiculous? That so many people genuinely believe it to be in the realm of possibility that the Democrats would hide the death of SC justice .

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Tin foil hat people rule PPP. 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

No they don't. People who are honest and can think rationally "rule" PPP. 

 

You don't fit any of those. As you keep proving with post after post after post. 

[BeginnersMind]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

No way it's #3 on that list. The prevalence of social media and the internet during Kavanaugh made his 100x worse. It'll live forever in meme form, gif form, and every search result ever run on the man will pull up those false charges. 

 

 

He's terrible at this thinking thing.

 

 

"You're bad at this" is one of the things you say that requires a drink in the DR drinking game...and this counts. Ranking the top SC screw-jobs is hardly an objective task though, Ahab. You have an opinion. I do too. Mine spans history. Yours is rooted in the yesterday you can remember. 

 

What happened to Thomas was a first, and was totally unsubstantiated and without precedent. And what happened to Bork, given his qualifications and lack of precedent, was worse. Bork started this whole thing where the Senate believes it had the right to just bounce nominees, more or less, because they didn't' like their politics, which is assinine. 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

No they don't. People who are honest and can think rationally "rule" PPP. 

 

You don't fit any of those. As you keep proving with post after post after post. 

 

$$

[IDBillzFan]

4 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Tin foil hat people rule PPP. 

 

 

Says the person who thinks Trump got elected because of Russia. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 You know nothing of history, or context, as you prove with each and every post. 

 

The world is smaller than ever and more fractured than ever. No one under the age of 25 paid attention to Thomas or Bork - that's not so with Kavanaugh. What was done to him lives forever in the internet in a way that is just not true with Bork or Thomas. 

 

You're analysis is poor. Very poor. 

 

Because you're a joke. 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 You know nothing of history, or context, as you prove with each and every post. 

 

The world is smaller than ever and more fractured than ever. No one under the age of 25 paid attention to Thomas or Bork - that's not so with Kavanaugh. What was done to him lives forever in the internet in a way that is just not true with Bork or Thomas. 

 

You're analysis is poor. Very poor. 

 

Because you're a joke. 

Just give up on the clown. Please? It's bad enough you won't give up on Tiberius.

 

For us, please???? If we ignore it we all win.

[IDBillzFan]

 

12 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

What happened to Thomas was a first, and was totally unsubstantiated and without precedent. And what happened to Bork, given his qualifications and lack of precedent, was worse. Bork started this whole thing where the Senate believes it had the right to just bounce nominees, more or less, because they didn't' like their politics, which is assinine. 

 

The Kavanaugh hearing was pushed into every face on this planet by means that were never available with Thomas or Bork. You couldn't look at any social media without people in your timeline calling him a gang-banger racist. People NEVER would have seen that much information on Thomas or Bork, that often and that furiously, simply by looking at a phone wherever they stood or sat. 

[DC Tom]

13 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

 

The Kavanaugh hearing was pushed into every face on this planet by means that were never available with Thomas or Bork. You couldn't look at any social media without people in your timeline calling him a gang-banger racist. People NEVER would have seen that much information on Thomas or Bork, that often and that furiously, simply by looking at a phone wherever they stood or sat. 

 

You mean like how Kavanaugh pushed Ford into the bedroom, then tied her to the bed and raped her repeatedly over the course of several days?  How can you be so insensitive?

[Koko78]

52 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't know what the specific crime would be if they were hiding her death, or if there would even be one. Koko or others might have a better grasp on that, I'd think the biggest blowback would be political. If the public at large were to learn for a fact that RGB was dead and that was hidden from the public by politicians on the left purely to deny Trump a pick it would confirm every single bad thing uttered about the left by independents and moderates over the years.

 

I am not sure if there is a specific federal crime that hiding her corpse would fall under - I haven't been in federal court for about 10 years now.

 

The real crimes, as others noted, would be fraud in someone voting/signing on her behalf. That would cause one hell of a constitutional crisis, on top of invalidating every decision since December and permanently damaging (if not outright eliminating) confidence and trust in the court system.  Such a loss of trust in the courts would destroy our entire system.

 

57 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Horseshit. There was precedent for the Garland non vote. There's no precedent or moral necessity to keep RBG alive for political reasons.

 

There really wasn't actual precedent. The "Biden Rule" that McConnell invoked was a hypothetical posited by Joe Biden when he was chair of the Judiciary Committee back in the early 90's, when he was asked whether Papa Bush should be able to nominate someone if there was a SC vacancy in 1992.

[IDBillzFan]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

You mean like how Kavanaugh pushed Ford into the bedroom, then tied her to the bed and raped her repeatedly over the course of several days?  How can you be so insensitive?

 

And he laughed and laughed and laughed the whole time.

 

True story.

[LB3]

39 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Tin foil hat people rule PPP.