B-Man Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 HIGH SNOBBERY FROM THE WASHINGTON POST According to the Washington Post, acting attorney general Matt Whitaker “stands in vivid contrast to his predecessors whose resumes typically boast judgeships, partnerships at prestigious law firms, and senior roles in the Justice Department. Really? On what court did Janet Reno serve as a judge? None. She was a partner in a Miami law firm for a year. She had never held a position at the Justice Department before becoming attorney general, though she had been the Dade County state attorney. John Ashcroft was never a judge, either. He was a career politician, who had served as the attorney general of Missouri. As far as I can tell, he never worked for the Justice Department before becoming attorney general. Nor had he been a partner in a major law firm. Jeff Sessions was also a career politician. He was never a judge — Democrats saw to that through a smear campaign when President Reagan nominated him. To my knowledge, Sessions was never a partner at a major law firm. Sessions served two years as Alabama’s attorney general before being elected to the Senate. Previously, he had been a U.S. Attorney. Whitaker has also been a U.S. Attorney. In addition, he was chief-of-staff to former attorney general Sessions for more than a year. The Post focuses on Whitaker’s background as a business owner and entrepreneur. That background may make Whitaker unique, but it doesn’t make him less qualified than his predecessors. Experience in business may not be a qualification for the attorney general job, but it certainly isn’t a minus. Arguably, it’s a plus. The Post’s beef with Whitaker isn’t that he hasn’t been a judge or a partner at a major law firm, or that he owned businesses. The Post simply fears that Whitaker will constrain Robert Mueller. Therefore it wanted to run another article disparaging him. The Post’s article is phony. But its snobbery, though selective, is genuine.
DC Tom Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 50 minutes ago, Koko78 said: A chain of command is not the same thing as a line of succession. Being confirmed by the Senate for a different position means absolutely nothing, not matter how much you dipschiffs want to cross your fingers, close your eyes, and wish upon that little star. To simplify it further, in deference to Otto: the Senate confirms NOMINATIONS, not people.
Tiberius Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: HIGH SNOBBERY FROM THE WASHINGTON POST According to the Washington Post, acting attorney general Matt Whitaker “stands in vivid contrast to his predecessors whose resumes typically boast judgeships, partnerships at prestigious law firms, and senior roles in the Justice Department. Really? On what court did Janet Reno serve as a judge? None. She was a partner in a Miami law firm for a year. She had never held a position at the Justice Department before becoming attorney general, though she had been the Dade County state attorney. John Ashcroft was never a judge, either. He was a career politician, who had served as the attorney general of Missouri. As far as I can tell, he never worked for the Justice Department before becoming attorney general. Nor had he been a partner in a major law firm. Jeff Sessions was also a career politician. He was never a judge — Democrats saw to that through a smear campaign when President Reagan nominated him. To my knowledge, Sessions was never a partner at a major law firm. Sessions served two years as Alabama’s attorney general before being elected to the Senate. Previously, he had been a U.S. Attorney. Whitaker has also been a U.S. Attorney. In addition, he was chief-of-staff to former attorney general Sessions for more than a year. The Post focuses on Whitaker’s background as a business owner and entrepreneur. That background may make Whitaker unique, but it doesn’t make him less qualified than his predecessors. Experience in business may not be a qualification for the attorney general job, but it certainly isn’t a minus. Arguably, it’s a plus. The Post’s beef with Whitaker isn’t that he hasn’t been a judge or a partner at a major law firm, or that he owned businesses. The Post simply fears that Whitaker will constrain Robert Mueller. Therefore it wanted to run another article disparaging him. The Post’s article is phony. But its snobbery, though selective, is genuine. He is a political hack, associated with a fraudulent business, and has no experience running any organization like the DOJ. His business "qualifications" are pretty shallow, too. I mean if you are going to push business experience, shouldn't it at least be successful businesses? Not something that was shut down because of fraud.
keepthefaith Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: A Trump political hack in charge of enforcing laws, ya, what could go wrong? Easy answer. Take a look back at Eric Holder's term. It's payback time biche.
Tiberius Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, DC Tom said: To simplify it further, in deference to Otto: the Senate confirms NOMINATIONS, not people. Ummmm..... Witaker wasn't even nominated, you moron! Can't you keep up at all? 3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Easy answer. Take a look back at Eric Holder's term. It's payback time biche. Whataboutism Lame
DC Tom Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: He is a political hack, associated with a fraudulent business, and has no experience running any organization like the DOJ. His business "qualifications" are pretty shallow, too. I mean if you are going to push business experience, shouldn't it at least be successful businesses? Not something that was shut down because of fraud. He was Sessions' chief of staff, and you think he has no experience? 1
Foxx Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: If someone is confirmed as Deputy AG in the normal process that is much closer to Constitutional norms than just picking some Trump cultist hack to head the department. You are just being stupid. now you're just being stupid. you are expanding the basis to fit your paradigm. if that is the case then my expanding a basis to fit my paradigm is just as valid. get over it. mornin' Tibs Edited November 16, 2018 by Foxx 1
Tiberius Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, DC Tom said: He was Sessions' chief of staff, and you think he has no experience? Hack, and you know it Admission of guilt? ? Quote When he was asked Wednesday by the Daily Caller why he had appointed Matthew G. Whitaker as acting attorney general, Trump replied: “Look, as far as I’m concerned this is an investigation that should have never been brought. It should have never been had. It’s something that should have never been brought. It’s an illegal investigation.”
Tiberius Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Oh, ya, this isn't a total lie, eh cultists? He just thinks his supporters are stupid Quote President Trump on Sunday claimed he was unaware that Matthew Whitaker had been publicly critical of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation prior to picking him to replace Jeff Sessions as attorney general. "I did not know that. I did not know he took views on the Mueller investigation as such," Trump said on "Fox News Sunday." He added that he doesn't believe Whitaker's past statements had any effect on his choice once he learned of the comments. https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/417312-trump-says-he-did-not-know-whitaker-was-critical-of-mueller-before
Tiberius Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 And here come the law suits! There maybe many more like this. If he was illegally appointed, his standing in cases hurts the DOJ. Quote A Texas businessman facing a federal criminal case over distribution of substandard pet food ingredients is mounting a novel challenge to President Donald Trump’s hotly debated appointment of Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general. Lawyers for former agricultural products executive Doug Haning quietly filed a motion Tuesday asking a federal court in St. Louis to rule that Whitaker’s installation atop the Justice Department, made in the wake of Trump’s ouster of Attorney General Jeff Sessions last week, was illegal. In theory, such a legal challenge could be pursued by any defendant under federal prosecution. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/15/texas-businessman-challenges-ag-whitaker-993768
Tiberius Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Our new, unconstitutional, un-vetted, non-Senate confirmed AG use to sell "Masculine toilets" https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/democrats-demand-info-on-acting-attorney-general-matthew-whitaker-masculine-toilet-scam Quote While the F.T.C. charged that the company promised investors patenting and promotional assistance but in reality “provided almost no service in return” (the company reportedly settled with the agency earlier this year, and agreed not to promote any other patent-marketing services), it appears that there were at least a few products Whitaker & co. threw their weight behind: In November 2014 . . . World Patent Marketing, announced the “marketing launch” of a “MASCULINE TOILET,” which boasted a specially designed bowl to help “well-endowed men” avoid unwanted contact with porcelain or water. “The average male genitalia is between 5” and 6.”” the firm’s press release said. “However, this invention is designed for those of us who measure longer than that.” The special toilet was not the firm’s only notable offering. It marketed a slew of oddball inventions, including a “theoretical time travel commodity tied directly to price of Bitcoin.” Called Time Travel X and marketed as “a technology, an investment vehicle and a community of users,” the cryptocurrency never materialized. The firm also pitched Sasquatch dolls, promoting them with a video claiming that “DNA evidence collected in 2013 proves that Bigfoot does exist.”
Deranged Rhino Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Our new, unconstitutional, un-vetted, non-Senate confirmed AG use to sell "Masculine toilets" https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/democrats-demand-info-on-acting-attorney-general-matthew-whitaker-masculine-toilet-scam You do realize Whitaker has been approved by the Senate before... right? And look at who was in the Senate at the time - most of the same people: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-02-03/pdf/CREC-2004-02-03-pt1-PgS547-2.pdfhttps://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRECB-2009-pt17/pdf/CRECB-2009-pt17-Pg22761-6.pdfhttps://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-04-01/pdf/CREC-2004-04-01-pt1-PgS3594-2.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-06-03/pdf/CREC-2004-06-03-pt1-PgS6465.pdfhttps://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-06-03/pdf/CREC-2004-06-03-pt1-PgS6467-5.pdfhttps://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-02-03/pdf/CREC-2004-02-03-pt1-PgD50.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-06-03/pdf/CREC-2004-06-03-pt1-PgS6465.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-02-03/pdf/CREC-2004-02-03-pt1-PgD50.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2004-06-03/pdf/CREC-2004-06-03-pt1-PgS6467-5.pdf
Warren Zevon Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: You do realize Whitaker has been approved by the Senate before... right? Play fair - This was 10 years before the "company" he worked with was under investigation. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Just now, peace out said: Play fair - This was 10 years before the "company" he worked with was under investigation. It was, without question. I'm just sharing information in case he was unaware. Based on his posts today, I'm reading Tibs as thinking the Senate never weighed in on Whitaker at all (considering he held Yates up as an example earlier of someone who was Senate confirmed - though her confirmation was for a different position, like Whitaker). Just trying to help a guy out.
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 It doesn't matter. ACTING appointments do not need approval.
Deranged Rhino Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It doesn't matter. ACTING appointments do not need approval. 100% But the talking point has shifted now (not from just Tibs) from one inaccuracy (that confirmation is required) to a new one: the Senate has never weighed in on Whitaker at all.
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: 100% But the talking point has shifted now (not from just Tibs) from one inaccuracy (that confirmation is required) to a new one: the Senate has never weighed in on Whitaker at all. Who gives a ***** how the talking points shift. He's trying to distract from the facs that he's 1) wrong, and 2) an !@#$. And you're falling for it. Don't be the MSNBC to his Trump. 2
Tiberius Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It doesn't matter. ACTING appointments do not need approval. Where does it say that in the Constitution? Oh, that's right, it doesn't.
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Where does it say that in the Constitution? Oh, that's right, it doesn't. The Appointments Clause gives Congress the right to delegate to the President "inferior" appointments, which Congress did with the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998, which allows the appointment of acting officials without Senate Confirmation.
outsidethebox Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Where does it say that in the Constitution? Oh, that's right, it doesn't. Is your ass still burning from President Trump's trouncing of criminal Hillary? You need to accept the things you cannot change, like the BS russian collusion investigation. The courage to change the things you can, like, maybe the corrupt left wing party. And the wisdom to know the difference. Here is where you might struggle. Sniffing bleach all those years at the laundromat has seriously damaged your ability to think on your own. Get some religion, straighten up your life, move out of your mom's basement and for God sakes, stop sniffing the bleach!! 1
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