College Basketball 2018-19

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

How good is Boehiem's kid? Do you know if Canisius's Sam Rautins who is the son of the former long time assistant coach is any good? 

 

Buddy Boeheim is a very good shooter. Has good size 6’6 and good basketball IQ

 

Jimmy B wouldn’t Let him come just because his name

 

As for Sam Rautins, he is a little bit shorter than his older brother Andy, who is one of the best 3 point shooters in Syracuse history but he also has a sturdier frame

 

he will probably be a dead eye shooter with sneaky good defense 

[Mr Info]

Duke Dubs. The Warriors & Blue Devils will both be able to coast to the playoffs and tourney respectively. With Barrett, Williamson, Reddish & the rest, Duke can only be stopped by injuries. Same for GS. 

Trying to be objective and not a prisoner of the moment but both teams have more talent than their competition.

[JohnC]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Buddy Boeheim is a very good shooter. Has good size 6’6 and good basketball IQ

 

Jimmy B wouldn’t Let him come just because his name

 

As for Sam Rautins, he is a little bit shorter than his older brother Andy, who is one of the best 3 point shooters in Syracuse history but he also has a sturdier frame

 

he will probably be a dead eye shooter with sneaky good defense 

Thank you for the evaluation. In the league that Canisius plays in there is a lot of perimeter play and stress on three point shooting. His game seems to fit well for that system. 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Thank you for the evaluation. In the league that Canisius plays in there is a lot of perimeter play and stress on three point shooting. His game seems to fit well for that system. 

 

He should be a very good player in the maac if he develops anything like Andy

 

Andy was a low level nothing recruit and became a 1000 point scorer

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

He should be a very good player in the maac if he develops anything like Andy

 

Andy was a low level nothing recruit and became a 1000 point scorer

If you can shoot you can survive. 

[teef]

15 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Clemson may put up a basketball style score on you. Didn’t they have 77 last week? Yes, be VERY afraid! 

i'm honestly just looking for a moral victory at this point.

14 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Jared Dudley was cool 

lol!  he really was.  i don't get too attached to any college player, but for some reason i have fond memories of him.  jared dudley and craig smith.  

[row_33]

UB/WVA is on tonight or soon, how is UB looking this year?

 

 

[Mark Vader]

It's the same in Basketball for me as it is in Football. Michigan.

 

After last year's unexpected run to the National Title game, the Wolverines are with a lot of younger players this season, only 1 senior & 3 juniors. They have a good amount of sophomores with experience.

 

They are still good enough to be ranked in the Top 25, but no proven big guys to take over from the departed Moritz Wagner. There is talent with players like Jordan Poole, Charles Matthews, Zavier Simpson & Isaiah Livers.

 

Early games against Villanova & North Carolina will be tough, but if there is one thing I've learned is to never count out a John Beilein coached team. Especially when it gets late in the season.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

It's the same in Basketball for me as it is in Football. Michigan.

 

After last year's unexpected run to the National Title game, the Wolverines are with a lot of younger players this season, only 1 senior & 3 juniors. They have a good amount of sophomores with experience.

 

They are still good enough to be ranked in the Top 25, but no proven big guys to take over from the departed Moritz Wagner. There is talent with players like Jordan Poole, Charles Matthews, Zavier Simpson & Isaiah Livers.

 

Early games against Villanova & North Carolina will be tough, but if there is one thing I've learned is to never count out a John Beilein coached team. Especially when it gets late in the season.

 

I give them a world of credit for playing Nova and UNC. So many teams run and hide, but those games make you better come March. Test yourself to get better! It’s not college football where you might not recover from a single loss. Go Spartans!

 

 

(Just kidding.) 

[Mark Vader]

14 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I give them a world of credit for playing Nova and UNC. So many teams run and hide, but those games make you better come March. Test yourself to get better! It’s not college football where you might not recover from a single loss. Go Spartans!

 

 

(Just kidding.) 

Ha ha.

 

The strange thing about Michigan and Michigan State this season, is that they don't face each other until the end of February and the beginning of March.

[row_33]

17 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

It's the same in Basketball for me as it is in Football. Michigan.

 

After last year's unexpected run to the National Title game, the Wolverines are with a lot of younger players this season, only 1 senior & 3 juniors. They have a good amount of sophomores with experience.

 

They are still good enough to be ranked in the Top 25, but no proven big guys to take over from the departed Moritz Wagner. There is talent with players like Jordan Poole, Charles Matthews, Zavier Simpson & Isaiah Livers.

 

Early games against Villanova & North Carolina will be tough, but if there is one thing I've learned is to never count out a John Beilein coached team. Especially when it gets late in the season.

 

I look forward to UM being competitive.

 

(background:  for a decade around 2002 to 2012 i went to almost all football games at AA along with several road trips, my father was part of many of them and he's still a huge Wolverines fan even though we cannot go to any more games)

 

thanks for the update, will be watching a lot of ACC/Big 10 games on TV this season.

 

 

 

 

 

[bbb]

On 11/7/2018 at 5:44 PM, JohnC said:

How good is Boehiem's kid? Do you know if Canisius's Sam Rautins who is the son of the former long time assistant coach is any good? 

 

Sam's father is actually on TV for the Raptors games.  He's not a coach.  Although he did used to be the coach of the Canadian national team. 

[eball]

So Army actually gave Dook fits for the first 3/4 of that game?  Interesting.  Gives me hope they won't just blow through everyone this season.

[JohnC]

On 11/9/2018 at 12:04 PM, Mark Vader said:

Ha ha.

 

The strange thing about Michigan and Michigan State this season, is that they don't face each other until the end of February and the beginning of March.

You were spot on when you described a Beilein coached team as a team that gets better as the season advances. That's his trademark. His program is not built on one on one stars. His teams are noted for its unselfish style of play where passing and tough defense. The longer a player sticks with the program the better they are going to get. The German kid, Wagner, started off as a scrawny kid who wasn't much of a factor to becoming a versatile big man who was drafted in the NBA. 

 

It's not surprising that big time programs sometimes get tainted in pursuit of some of the four star players. Those are not the type of players he usually pursues because they don't fit the team work model that he advocates for. John Beilein is a great coach and a credit to his profession. It's understandable why he is admired by his coaching peers.

 

John Beilein has started at the bottom in his peripatetic profession and worked his way up the coaching ranks. Everywhere he has gone he has been successful without a sniff of controversy. And that is easy in such a cut throat business. Beilein doesn't merely coach a team but he builds a program.  

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

You were spot on when you described a Beilein coached team as a team that gets better as the season advances. That's his trademark. His program is not built on one on one stars. His teams are noted for its unselfish style of play where passing and tough defense. The longer a player sticks with the program the better they are going to get. The German kid, Wagner, started off as a scrawny kid who wasn't much of a factor to becoming a versatile big man who was drafted in the NBA. 

 

It's not surprising that big time programs sometimes get tainted in pursuit of some of the four star players. Those are not the type of players he usually pursues because they don't fit the team work model that he advocates for. John Beilein is a great coach and a credit to his profession. It's understandable why he is admired by his coaching peers.

 

John Beilein has started at the bottom in his peripatetic profession and worked his way up the coaching ranks. Everywhere he has gone he has been successful without a sniff of controversy. And that is easy in such a cut throat business. Beilein doesn't merely coach a team but he builds a program.  

Everything you say is true.

 

Last year's team is a great example. Early in the year they lose to Louisiana State, then blew an 18 point lead over Ohio State and lost, but then they beat UCLA, got swept by Purdue but beat the Boilermakers in the Big 10 Championship game and beat Michigan State 3 TIMES.

 

This past weekend they beat Holy Cross, but not in a very dominant fashion, and they have a Wednesday meeting against Villanova. A game they will more likely lose.

 

As you said, we shall see how Michigan finishes the season. John Beilein has gotten the Wolverines to the National Title game twice, and I think that he will win a National Championship eventually with this school. Maybe not this year, but you never know.

 

[Buffalo716]

10 hours ago, JohnC said:

You were spot on when you described a Beilein coached team as a team that gets better as the season advances. That's his trademark. His program is not built on one on one stars. His teams are noted for its unselfish style of play where passing and tough defense. The longer a player sticks with the program the better they are going to get. The German kid, Wagner, started off as a scrawny kid who wasn't much of a factor to becoming a versatile big man who was drafted in the NBA. 

 

It's not surprising that big time programs sometimes get tainted in pursuit of some of the four star players. Those are not the type of players he usually pursues because they don't fit the team work model that he advocates for. John Beilein is a great coach and a credit to his profession. It's understandable why he is admired by his coaching peers.

 

John Beilein has started at the bottom in his peripatetic profession and worked his way up the coaching ranks. Everywhere he has gone he has been successful without a sniff of controversy. And that is easy in such a cut throat business. Beilein doesn't merely coach a team but he builds a program.  

Moritz Wagner was a top 100 recruit and legitimate 4* recruit 

 

id 100% agree that Beilein doesn’t normally go after the big5* recruits but he goes after a lot of high major 4* guys

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Moritz Wagner was a top 100 recruit and legitimate 4* recruit 

 

id 100% agree that Beilein doesn’t normally go after the big5* recruits but he goes after a lot of high major 4* guys

Wagner may have been a top tier recruit but because he stayed in school for a couple or few years he developed a much more advanced game that made him a legitimate pro prospect. In an interview he stated that the coach was hard on him throughout his college years. He added that it was the best thing that happened to him with respect to his basketball career. 

[row_33]

Ex Wolverine Caris LeVert with a gruesome multiple?? Leg fracture

 

 

Edited November 13, 2018 by row_33

[Buffalo716]

20 hours ago, JohnC said:

Wagner may have been a top tier recruit but because he stayed in school for a couple or few years he developed a much more advanced game that made him a legitimate pro prospect. In an interview he stated that the coach was hard on him throughout his college years. He added that it was the best thing that happened to him with respect to his basketball career. 

Of course it was the best thing for his game.

 

Going back to school for another year will always help your game unless your are a LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony type

 

you can get bigger , stronger, refine your game. It’s a win win if you are a hard working player

 

A guy like Wagner wasn’t ready for the league after his first couple seasons. The natural talent was there but he needed to craft his body to an NBA level and refine some things

 

A great coach will bring that out of you

[Johnny Hammersticks]

On 11/12/2018 at 8:54 AM, JohnC said:

You were spot on when you described a Beilein coached team as a team that gets better as the season advances. That's his trademark. His program is not built on one on one stars. His teams are noted for its unselfish style of play where passing and tough defense. The longer a player sticks with the program the better they are going to get. The German kid, Wagner, started off as a scrawny kid who wasn't much of a factor to becoming a versatile big man who was drafted in the NBA. 

 

It's not surprising that big time programs sometimes get tainted in pursuit of some of the four star players. Those are not the type of players he usually pursues because they don't fit the team work model that he advocates for. John Beilein is a great coach and a credit to his profession. It's understandable why he is admired by his coaching peers.

 

John Beilein has started at the bottom in his peripatetic profession and worked his way up the coaching ranks. Everywhere he has gone he has been successful without a sniff of controversy. And that is easy in such a cut throat business. Beilein doesn't merely coach a team but he builds a program.  

 

Trust me, Beilein would love to land those 5* recruits consistently.  He can’t.  It’s not a choice.  Very few coaches/teams can pull that off.  I have always admired John as a coach, however, as his teams always seem to be very tough...mentally and physically.