Kirby Jackson Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: And yet the OP’s point bears discussion. Are his quotes of the stats of our offensive “stars” actually not offensive? Nope, they all are having bad years. The reality is that 45% of the offensive snaps belonging to Peterman and Anderson is the prime reason. The OP has spent the last few weeks trying to defend and deflect from Nate. The guy is the worst QB in history. There is no reason to make excuses for him. He’s a massive part of the problem and not any part of the solution.
dave mcbride Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I really don't think even the very, very best wide receivers make that catch more than 50% of the time. Benjamin had it in his two hands at the very apex of his jump. It was actually great timing on his part. It's physically impossible to have ultimate hand strength at that moment. Immediately as he brought it down the defender got his whole arm in there to knock it away. That wasn't a drop at all. He could have caught it but it was far more a pass breakup and great defensive play than a drop. And I hate defending Benjamin. He's pitiful this year. And lazy. Agree 100 percent. 2 hours ago, Kevin1778 said: He dropped it. Any top wide receiver catches that. He has no vertical. Great receivers always catch balls that hit them on the hands in the endzone. See Dog's post above.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Nope, they all are having bad years. The reality is that 45% of the offensive snaps belonging to Peterman and Anderson is the prime reason. The OP has spent the last few weeks trying to defend and deflect from Nate. The guy is the worst QB in history. There is no reason to make excuses for him. He’s a massive part of the problem and not any part of the solution. It's definitely getting technical when the stank has so many layers to it. It's getting difficult to evaluate which is worse, the talent trying to execute the play designs, or the coaching prep schematically on the O side of the ball? And I have been willing recently to give Daboll a pass given what he's working with objectively, but this is getting beyond nuts. Edited November 5, 2018 by NoHuddleKelly12 1
LabattBlue Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Peterman SUCKS, but why blame him when it is Beane and McClappy that not only keep him on the roster, but keep rolling him out as a starter for multiple games now. That alone should be just cause to fire them both come December 31st.
Warcodered Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Kevin1778 said: People have turned Peterman into a punching bag when in actuality he gets paid $614k, what a 3rd QB gets paid. The real problem are the big 4 highly paid "stars" on offense. Look at those contracts and look at their production. The Big 4 on offense have been awful. Their stats through NINE games is beyond bad. In fact Peterman has thrown for a TD and run for a TD. Those 2TD's are more than McCoy, Clay, and Benjamin have COMBINED. Josh Allen $ 3.85M 832Yds 2TD 5 INT LeSean McCoy $8.95M 267yds ZERO TD's Charles Clay $9.00M 169yds ZERO TD's Kelvin Benjamin $8.5M 302yds 1TD So if we're counting Nates QB sneak touchdown does that mean you should add the 3 rushing TD Allen has?
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So if we're counting Nates QB sneak touchdown does that mean you should add the 3 rushing TD Allen has? You absolutely should. TD is a TD, same number of points no matter how you get in there.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I love the Scramble on the untimed hail mary. That was impressive what, you wanted him to throw a 105 yard pick 6? 1 hour ago, clearwater cadet said: I'm not a Peterman guy but it incredible how many of his ball go off receivers hands and are picked. I first one he thrown to ivory should have been picked and returned. Ivory had two hands on it chest high. I guy is just jinx the DiMarco one in San Diego just started it off and ruined this guy. I'd say 60% do, but we won't let those small details cloud the discussion. The truth here, is that the guy who scored the ONLY TD's in the past month for Buffalo flat out sucks. 18 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So if we're counting Nates QB sneak touchdown does that mean you should add the 3 rushing TD Allen has? 10 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: You absolutely should. TD is a TD, same number of points no matter how you get in there. A TD is A TD. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: I really don't think even the very, very best wide receivers make that catch more than 50% of the time. Benjamin had it in his two hands at the very apex of his jump. It was actually great timing on his part. It's physically impossible to have ultimate hand strength at that moment. Immediately as he brought it down the defender got his whole arm in there to knock it away. That wasn't a drop at all. He could have caught it but it was far more a pass breakup and great defensive play than a drop. And I hate defending Benjamin. He's pitiful this year. And lazy. Take a good look. Edited November 5, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Nate Peterman ran the ball on a Hail Mary. He is horrible. Has no situational awareness and turns the ball over on 11.5% of his pass attempts Like them scoring there would have made any difference. Besides, he actually had quite a wide open field! If he could run better, hell, he might have made it!
BADOLBILZ Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Peterman simply lacks talent. His interceptions are 100% earned. People trying to excuse his interceptions as unforeseeable errors ignore the fact that OUR OWN HC runs a defense that is designed to create throws like Peterman made yesterday. Throws which don't advance the ball much but create opportunities for turnover. As an aside: Ironically when McD got fired in Philly Dick Jauron was his DB's coach...........and it was expected that Jauron would take his spot as DC but Andy Reid promoted Juan Castillo from OL coach to DC instead. He learned A LOT from Dick Jauron about how to survive as a coach in this league.............McD died by the sword in Philly playing an agressive defense that was ultimately designed to be able to combat the better QB's in the league...........but if not well done allowed for tons of big plays. McD couldn't do it. He just couldn't dial up the right calls and he gave up tons of big plays and his redzone defense was the worst in the NFL. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Take a good look. Some people may not believe this but that was a GOOD PASS and 110% on KB. at the 18 second mark KB has BOTH hands solidly on the ball. Edited November 5, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
MTBill Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 The only stat I needed to know about NP. the ONLY one... In the Super bowl era, he holds the record for the most INT for any passer with 100 or fewer pass attempts. He is not the worst ever - that falls to Tommy Wade - Pitt QB from 64-65 who threw 13 picks in 69 attempts.... Later in the game yesterday, he passed 100 attempts - and finished the day with 12 picks in 130 attempts. A staggering comparison - Aaron Rogers has thrown 11 picks in his last 993 attempts. Bonus stat: Peterman became the 1st QB since 1999 with 30 completions to pass for less than 190 yards. It is not just the people around NP, NP is not capable of playing the position. He is holding that position ONLY because we have zero other players who can even stand out on the field at the moment.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, MTBill said: The only stat I needed to know about NP. the ONLY one... In the Super bowl era, he holds the record for the most INT for any passer with 100 or fewer pass attempts. He is not the worst ever - that falls to Tommy Wade - Pitt QB from 64-65 who threw 13 picks in 69 attempts.... Later in the game yesterday, he passed 100 attempts - and finished the day with 12 picks in 130 attempts. A staggering comparison - Aaron Rogers has thrown 11 picks in his last 993 attempts. Bonus stat: Peterman became the 1st QB since 1999 with 30 completions to pass for less than 190 yards. It is not just the people around NP, NP is not capable of playing the position. He is holding that position ONLY because we have zero other players who can even stand out on the field at the moment. Should have been gone after week 1.
JohnC Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I was at the game and haven't seen the broadcast yet..........but was it not obvious on TV that there were 10 defenders within 5 yards(and sometimes 3 yards) of the LOS all game? You gotta' throw the ball over the top of that kind of defense. Nate kept throwing right into it.............***** averaged less than 4 yards per attempt. Not a matter of casting blame on a guy who doesn't deserve criticism..........he simply can't make NFL throws and everyone knows it. Don't waste your effort on the third qb on the team. He is what he is. You may not have a good vantage point from being in the stands but our OL play is bad to the point of being dysfunctional. Without question good qb play helps out the OL but atrocious line play makes it impossible to run a basic offense. That unit is horrendous. Our most talented lineman is Dawkins. He is more suited to the LG position than the LT position. Our receiving corps is not much better than our futile OL. Zay Jones can be a solid player. Benjamin is a waste. Collectively our offense is a league embarrassment in a system that is biased toward the offense. The offseason needs to be dedicated to remaking that unit. If it isn't then that is a classic example of malfeasance and nonfeasance.
Saxum Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm guessing that SaviorPeterman has resurfaced with a new board name. He's once again taking up the cause in between high heel meetings. Corrected
Scott7975 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Kevin1778 said: People have turned Peterman into a punching bag when in actuality he gets paid $614k, what a 3rd QB gets paid. The real problem are the big 4 highly paid "stars" on offense. Look at those contracts and look at their production. The Big 4 on offense have been awful. Their stats through NINE games is beyond bad. In fact Peterman has thrown for a TD and run for a TD. Those 2TD's are more than McCoy, Clay, and Benjamin have COMBINED. Josh Allen $ 3.85M 832Yds 2TD 5 INT LeSean McCoy $8.95M 267yds ZERO TD's Charles Clay $9.00M 169yds ZERO TD's Kelvin Benjamin $8.5M 302yds 1TD That's not what he gets paid. That's what his cap hit is. His cap hit is actually higher than Derek Anderson, but you didn't make a thread about that. Drop the agenda. Peterman sucks. Its that simple. I don't care what he gets paid. I don't care what the Bills put around him. He still sucks as a QB. Edited November 5, 2018 by Scott7975
BananaB Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 7 quarters of play this year and 7 INTs. Not all his fault but when he’s in the game this ***** continues to happen. Coach might have faith in him but I doubt his teammates do.
gordong Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Peterman sucks... plain and simple.. How ANYONE can defend him is mind blowing 1
Saxum Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, gordong said: Peterman sucks... plain and simple.. How ANYONE can defend him is mind blowing ANYONE defending him has a blown mind.
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