jrober38 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Bills Offensive Moves with McDermott as HC. - trade Sammy Watkins for 2nd round pick - signed Vlad Ducasse, Patrick DiMarco & Andre Holmes - don't pick Mahomes or Watson, trade out of the #10 spot - trade up for Zay Jones - draft Dion Dawkins - sign Anquan Boldin - trade 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin - bench Tyrod Taylor so Nate Peterman can play - trade Cordy Glenn and a 1st round pick to move up in the draft - trade Tyrod Taylor - sign Chris Ivory - trade 1st rounder and two 2nds for Josh Allen - sign Jeremy Kerley - trade for Cory Coleman - cut Cory Coleman - start Nate Peterman as QB1 - trade AJ McCarron for 5th round pick - sign Derek Anderson - sign Terrell Pryor How has McDermott earned another year to try and fix the offense? This is their OL, their group of QBs, their RBs, and their WRs, and the offense is scoring 10.6 PPG. 6 2 11
Phil The Thrill Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Fans can come on here and whine all they want. McDermott and Beane are going no where. You may see a few position coaches or Crossman get fired, but don’t expect any top players to be out of job anytime soon. 4 1
Kwai San Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) You SORELY missed the selection of Peterpick6 in that list..... Edited November 5, 2018 by Kwai San 1
The_Dude Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 You have to ask yourself, is McDumbass the guy you want in charge of Josh Allen’s future? 10
Boca BIlls Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Bills Offensive Moves with McDermott as HC. - trade Sammy Watkins for 2nd round pick - signed Vlad Ducasse, Patrick DiMarco & Andre Holmes - don't pick Mahomes or Watson, trade out of the #10 spot - trade up for Zay Jones - draft Dion Dawkins - sign Anquan Boldin - trade 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin - bench Tyrod Taylor so Nate Peterman can play - trade Cordy Glenn and a 1st round pick to move up in the draft - trade Tyrod Taylor - sign Chris Ivory - trade 1st rounder and two 2nds for Josh Allen - sign Jeremy Kerley - trade for Cory Coleman - cut Cory Coleman - start Nate Peterman as QB1 - trade AJ McCarron for 5th round pick - sign Derek Anderson - sign Terrell Pryor How has McDermott earned another year to try and fix the offense? This is their OL, their group of QBs, their RBs, and their WRs, and the offense is scoring 10.6 PPG. Allen is his and Beane's QB. They need another year so see what they can do with this amount of cap space and 10 draft picks. Playoffs 2019 or fired.
Ol Dirty B Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Fans can come on here and whine all they want. McDermott and Beane are going no where. You may see a few position coaches or Crossman get fired, but don’t expect any top players to be out of job anytime soon. So they should just say nothing then? I'm not sure what you're suggesting
jrober38 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: Allen is his and Beane's QB. They need another year so see what they can do with this amount of cap space and 10 draft picks. Playoffs 2019 or fired. I'd rather those picks get used by someone who actually knows something about modern NFL offensive strategy. 8 3
Ol Dirty B Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: Allen is his and Beane's QB. They need another year so see what they can do with this amount of cap space and 10 draft picks. Playoffs 2019 or fired. Totally respectable opinion. I'm not their biggest fans, but if Allen looks good (which I'm not big on), and the team just misses out I'd give them another year. My view is, that I don't think they'll even do that. 1
Billsfan1972 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 They gave Peterman the start vs. LAC last year, named him the starter this year and signed no veteran to mentor Allen. I need no more evidence as to their incompetence. The OP is bang on, though missed that McD drafted NP and sold him to the sheep that are Bills fans..... 5
Boca BIlls Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: I'd rather those picks get used by someone who actually knows something about modern NFL offensive strategy. Understand but they get another year, that is just the way it needs to be. We need to see if they can have a stellar off season. We also need to know if the QB they picked is any good. At least if they get fired next year we will know with the new coach we need a QB.
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Fans can come on here and whine all they want. McDermott and Beane are going no where. You may see a few position coaches or Crossman get fired, but don’t expect any top players to be out of job anytime soon. No offense, but you can ***** off with that attitude. Adjusted for era this is THE WORST offense in the history of the NFL. Fans have a right to "whine" if they want to. You, Murphy, Tasker and Brown can all go circle jerk each other about how they are moving in the right direction and how the way they handled the QB situation was prudent, but it is a lie. Have a nice night.
The Now Moment Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: I'd rather those picks get used by someone who actually knows something about modern NFL offensive strategy. Except defense and running teams have made it to the super bowl continuously over the last decade. Both styles work.
jrober38 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: Understand but they get another year, that is just the way it needs to be. We need to see if they can have a stellar off season. We also need to know if the QB they picked is any good. At least if they get fired next year we will know with the new coach we need a QB. I don't need to know any of these things. I've seen enough to know that McDermott and Beane know nothing about offense and I want a new HC and GM in charge making those picks. 3
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Bills Offensive Moves with McDermott as HC. - trade Sammy Watkins for 2nd round pick - signed Vlad Ducasse, Patrick DiMarco & Andre Holmes - don't pick Mahomes or Watson, trade out of the #10 spot - trade up for Zay Jones - draft Dion Dawkins - sign Anquan Boldin - trade 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin - bench Tyrod Taylor so Nate Peterman can play - trade Cordy Glenn and a 1st round pick to move up in the draft - trade Tyrod Taylor - sign Chris Ivory - trade 1st rounder and two 2nds for Josh Allen - sign Jeremy Kerley - trade for Cory Coleman - cut Cory Coleman - start Nate Peterman as QB1 - trade AJ McCarron for 5th round pick - sign Derek Anderson - sign Terrell Pryor How has McDermott earned another year to try and fix the offense? This is their OL, their group of QBs, their RBs, and their WRs, and the offense is scoring 10.6 PPG. I'll state it time and time again, you also fail to mention both Ritchie Incognito and Eric Wood retired, it was a huge blow to this OL and unexpected. None of us know what happens behind closed doors either or reading that they tried to go after QB's Josh Mccown, Sam Bradford and Case keenum or sign WR John Brown to a 3 year 21M deal. Who knows what else they tried to do or trade offers they tried to make for players. I'm as unhappy as you about this offense but I wasn't hating it when Allen was in there, he was getting in game action that i thought was crucial and not having a very good backup killed us. I still want to see what this regime can do with a boatload of picks and tons of cap space because I'll be honest I like the way Beane has drafted so far in his 1 year of doing it full time. 3
Boca BIlls Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: I don't need to know any of these things. I've seen enough to know that McDermott and Beane know nothing about offense and I want a new HC and GM in charge making those picks. I will set you up a meeting with the Pegula's as early as next week.
Augie Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 I wonder if there could be a 24 hour ban for starting new threads after a loss. That might make the world a better place. Just leave one standing whiny thread out there for people to shed tears and evacuate themselves. 2 2 3
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Augie said: I wonder if there could be a 24 hour ban for starting new threads after a loss. That might make the world a better place. Just leave one standing whiny thread out there for people to shed tears and evacuate themselves. This is a perfectly legitimate thread.
PittsforDave Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Ouch. That list is detrimental. Doesnt look like we have right coach installed for our team. 1
KOKO NFL Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Bills Offensive Moves with McDermott as HC. - trade Sammy Watkins for 2nd round pick - signed Vlad Ducasse, Patrick DiMarco & Andre Holmes - don't pick Mahomes or Watson, trade out of the #10 spot - trade up for Zay Jones - draft Dion Dawkins - sign Anquan Boldin - trade 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin - bench Tyrod Taylor so Nate Peterman can play - trade Cordy Glenn and a 1st round pick to move up in the draft - trade Tyrod Taylor - sign Chris Ivory - trade 1st rounder and two 2nds for Josh Allen - sign Jeremy Kerley - trade for Cory Coleman - cut Cory Coleman - start Nate Peterman as QB1 - trade AJ McCarron for 5th round pick - sign Derek Anderson - sign Terrell Pryor How has McDermott earned another year to try and fix the offense? This is their OL, their group of QBs, their RBs, and their WRs, and the offense is scoring 10.6 PPG. You mean Brandon Beane.
jrober38 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Except defense and running teams have made it to the super bowl continuously over the last decade. Both styles work. The NFL now is drastically different than it was 4 years ago. The current NFL's rules, and their attempt to eliminate big hits and call more holding and PI calls makes it incredibly easy to score points. The current NFL is about scoring points because that's what the rules encourage. You're encouraged to throw the ball, because in addition to your expected gain (YPA) being greater than your average run (YPC), there are additional penalties baked in (roughing the passer, defensive holding, defensive PI) which making passing a much more lucrative option than running the ball. I'm not saying the run is useless, but I am saying that if you can't pass the football extremely well in 2018 you probably won't be very successful. Right now we have the worst offense in at least 20 years and the worst passing game in the league. Our coach is completely ignoring rule changes and basic probabilities by wanting to keep playing defense first, trying to win the field position battle and limit turnovers on offense. What we do philosophically is nothing like what you see from any of the top teams around the league. Edited November 5, 2018 by jrober38 3
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