The Frankish Reich Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Real McCoy said: 7-9 misery for life You mean just like it's been without him, with the exception of a couple 9-7s and, now, the thrill of a 2-14 or 3-13 just to mix things up a bit?
PittsforDave Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Didn’t we sign Fitz to a huge contract only for him to play like *****? Why would we want him? He was terrible. The problem for the Bills is motivation. The players don’t respect the team therefore mails it in.
yrly Posted November 5, 2018 Author Posted November 5, 2018 Fitz may not be the answer, neither was Tyrod but with Allen hurt either is arguably better than what we are watching now. If Fitz plays 2/3 of the next two seasons or continues to throw 4tds a game he’s going to be very close to Jim Kelly’s numbers by the time he hangs them up. I think the the point is it’s hard to put much worse on the field at this point. Hopefully Allen is healed up soon because if we’re gonna lose he’s wasting practice time.
Success Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 I like rooting for Fitz from afar. The inevitable disappointment and heartbreak doesn’t cut as deep.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, yrly said: Fitz may not be the answer, neither was Tyrod but with Allen hurt either is arguably better than what we are watching now. If Fitz plays 2/3 of the next two seasons or continues to throw 4tds a game he’s going to be very close to Jim Kelly’s numbers by the time he hangs them up. I think the the point is it’s hard to put much worse on the field at this point. Hopefully Allen is healed up soon because if we’re gonna lose he’s wasting practice time. I don’t think it is “arguably.” I think it is “definitely.” Now it it may not be best for the long-term but the people that always believe that the grass is greener are learning a hard lesson this year.
yrly Posted November 5, 2018 Author Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, PittsforDave said: Didn’t we sign Fitz to a huge contract only for him to play like *****? Why would we want him? He was terrible. The problem for the Bills is motivation. The players don’t respect the team therefore mails it in. We had lousy receiving corps back then. You’d have had to get receivers to work with and we’d have saved a lot of draft busts, probably a lot of money. Instead we are left with this mess. Fitz is proven as moderately serviceable with a good receiving corps even behind a marginal line. However he’s had several 400 yard games this year and we’ve had what a bunch of ints from peterman?
Needle Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 I never understood why teams run okay QBs out of town before finding a replacement.
PittsforDave Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, yrly said: We had lousy receiving corps back then. You’d have had to get receivers to work with and we’d have saved a lot of draft busts, probably a lot of money. Instead we are left with this mess. Fitz is proven as moderately serviceable with a good receiving corps even behind a marginal line. However he’s had several 400 yard games this year and we’ve had what a bunch of ints from peterman? How were are receivers the year before? When he played better before we threw him a ton of cash only for him to lay down. Fitz quit on the team, it wasn’t about talent of the WRs. Edited November 5, 2018 by PittsforDave
apuszczalowski Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Fitz may throw INTs, but he actually throws TDs too.......
yrly Posted November 5, 2018 Author Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, PittsforDave said: How were are receivers the year before? When he played better before we threw him a ton of cash only for him to lay down. Fitz quit on the team, it wasn’t about talent of the WRs. I forget who we had back then, was it Lee Evans? Anyway I looked it up at one point and he missed half of Fotz’s last season here due to injury 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Fitz may throw INTs, but he actually throws TDs too....... Career stats 186 TDS 141 INTs 28541 yard in 138 games and he only started 123 of them. I really wouldn’t consider that that bad.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Real McCoy said: 7-9 misery for life Exactly. Story of the Drought, redux. Never quite as bad as say, the Browns, but never breaking into the upper crust of perennial playoff contenders either--Fitzy = a run of great 4-5 games that have you wondering what Sully could ever find negative to write about, only to wind up looking like the fish out of water Harvard athlete that he is, gasping for air just short of the playoff finish line. At least the Bills swung for the fences with JA. 1
Pirate Angel Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Yeah signing guys that might make your team average is has worked great over the last 20 years...I'll take my chances with a horrid season in the Hope's we can obtain some elite talent 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 15 hours ago, yrly said: We’ve done no better at the QB position. I kind of wonder what he’d have been like behind a good line with a few good receivers. He doesn’t look bad in Tampa with no real running game and a pretty bad line. Someone in the media once wrote an article characterizing Fitzpatrick as a QB "multiple teams have moved on from, then failed to do enough to replace". Some truth to that. Leaving aside his drafting team (long shot late round where Bulger was the man) and Cinncinnati (backup to Palmer), we have Buffalo 2012 Fitzpatrick 2013 Manuel, Tuel, and Lewis Tennessee 2013 Locker, Fitzpatrick 2014 Locker, Whitehurst, Mettenburger Houston 2014 Fitzpatrick, Keenum, Mallet 2015 Hoyer, Mallet, Yates, Weedon NY Jets 2016 Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty 2017 Josh McCown, Bryce Petty The only place where one can make the argument letting Fitz go was the right move would be NYJ, where Fitz had a miserable completion percentage and TD/INT ratio and McCown played quite decently the following year. 12 hours ago, PittsforDave said: How were are receivers the year before? When he played better before we threw him a ton of cash only for him to lay down. Fitz quit on the team, it wasn’t about talent of the WRs. The team released him If you mean his play the previous season, I dunno - I think Fitz would be a field day for a sports psychologist, fear of success or something. I don't think he intentionally played poorly or quit, any more than he did for the 2016 Jets after a great 2015 season, or in TB Games 4, 8, and 9 vs 1,2, and 3. Au contraire arguably his problem is pushing too hard to make things happen combined with film of his tendencies in a specific offense that let the DBs pick him.
Jerome007 Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 15 hours ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: The guys on WGR are the worst. Allen was a top ten pick in most mock drafts and some had him going #1. I don't know if he is going to be good or not, but the revisionist history going on is beyond ridiculous. I've written that a few times here too. Feels often like speaking to a wall so thanks
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