twoandfourteen Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 I hear a lot of the #TeamProcess guys touting how much cap space McD & Beane created & will have available to them to "rebuild" the offense. Apparently that is supposed to serve as evidence that these guys know what they are doing. Do you McBeaners really think ANY free agent of any offensive worth will willingly come here for the going market rate? Do you have any idea just how much you're going to have to overpay to even get one of those guys to return your call? There is going to be a MASSIVE tax on Free Agent signings for the Bills during the next offseason. That $90M is going to go pretty quick on the marginal-to-mediocre talent that will inevitably sign here. Not to mention that they are only going to bring in guys that know their Scripture passages as well as they know their playbook, so the talent pool is limited to begin with. The intelligent & rational among us will soon realize that Free Agency might as well be seen as irrelevant moving forward. McD's ineptitude and arrogance has set this team back 5-8 years, at least. 6 2
Alphadawg7 Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 If only there was some facts, reason, or logic in your post...but since there isn’t, I will move on 8 6 11
Roundybout Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: I hear a lot of the #TeamProcess guys touting how much cap space McD & Beane created & will have available to them to "rebuild" the offense. Apparently that is supposed to serve as evidence that these guys know what they are doing. Do you McBeaners really think ANY free agent of any offensive worth will willingly come here for the going market rate? Do you have any idea just how much you're going to have to overpay to even get one of those guys to return your call? There is going to be a MASSIVE tax on Free Agent signings for the Bills during the next offseason. That $90M is going to go pretty quick on the marginal-to-mediocre talent that will inevitably sign here. Not to mention that they are only going to bring in guys that know their Scripture passages as well as they know their playbook, so the talent pool is limited to begin with. The intelligent & rational among us will soon realize that Free Agency might as well be seen as irrelevant moving forward. McD's ineptitude and arrogance has set this team back 5-8 years, at least. I don't see any, do you? 1 1
KD in CA Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 McBeaners? ? At least we have the tantrums around here to distract from the pains of rebuilding. 5 2
Boatdrinks Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 I’m not optimistic about their prospects in FA. Their drafting of offensive talent appears suspect as well. When the postscript is written on Beane /McD it will show they really boxed themselves in with their slash and burn methodology. Too big a hole to dig out of. 3
Steptide Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 Browns picked up some good players and they had 1 win in 2 seasons. We'll be alright. 11
Roundybout Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: Browns picked up some good players and they had 1 win in 2 seasons. We'll be alright. It's almost like people have an agenda.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: It's almost like people have an agenda. Ya think?
twoandfourteen Posted November 4, 2018 Author Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: If only there was some facts, reason, or logic in your post...but since there isn’t, I will move on So you don't think that the Bills will have any problem signing quality FAs?
Real McClappy Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, twoandfourteen said: So you don't think that the Bills will have any problem signing quality FAs? None, this topic is the most tiresome crap I read on these boards. 5
brianthomas Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 I dont think its really fair to ding our front office for mistakes they havent made yet. I know this season hasnt worked out like many would like, but this team wasnt built to win this year plain & simple. All these topics are just the result of this bottoming out process. Naturally we're gonna see a lot of negative posts while ur losing, but as we all know, this was the plan. Maybe this offseason will go as the Rams offseason was a couple years back. Where we pick up some talent finally & balance our offense to the talent of our defense. Until then i guess we'll just keep on going in circles with the what if's & what nots & Allen is a bust & this or that. 6 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Real McCoy said: None, this topic is the most tiresome crap I read on these boards. over and over and over and over and over 5 1
Luka Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 Money will be spent along the offensive line where applicable. Possibly a wide receiver if a good one is available. Also have some defensive guys that will need contracts. Looks like we'll have a very high draft pick which will either be traded to move down or an edge rusher will be selected. You may be right that there will be a crappy team tax but how is that really any different than any other year for the past two decades?
Real McClappy Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: over and over and over and over and over Spot on, just perfect.
twoandfourteen Posted November 4, 2018 Author Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steptide said: Browns picked up some good players and they had 1 win in 2 seasons. We'll be alright. Big difference between trades and free agency. Best player the Browns signed was Carlos Hyde, who is no longer with the team. 1
Roundybout Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, twoandfourteen said: Big difference between trades and free agency. Best player the Browns signed was Carlos Hyde, who is no longer with the team. Because Nick Chubb and David Johnson stepped up, and there was no need for Hyde. He could have easily stayed in San Fran.
twoandfourteen Posted November 4, 2018 Author Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Luka said: Money will be spent along the offensive line where applicable. Possibly a wide receiver if a good one is available. Also have some defensive guys that will need contracts. Looks like we'll have a very high draft pick which will either be traded to move down or an edge rusher will be selected. You may be right that there will be a crappy team tax but how is that really any different than any other year for the past two decades? Exactly. So the $90M in Free Cap defense for McD is kind of irrelevant, since it does not really give them any advantage. That's my point. It's been difficult in the past to sign guys and now the situation is even worse. 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Because Nick Chubb and David Johnson stepped up, and there was no need for Hyde. He could have easily stayed in San Fran. Great. Couldn't care less about what Chubb & Johnson are doing. The Browns didn't acquire any other offensive player of note in Free Agency. That was my point. As an aside, "Chubb & Johnson" is a hilarious name for a fantasy team next year. You're welcome, and remember -- this website is FREE. Edited November 4, 2018 by twoandfourteen
Luka Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, twoandfourteen said: Exactly. So the $90M in Free Cap defense for McD is kind of irrelevant, since it does not really give them any advantage. That's my point. It's been difficult in the past to sign guys and now the situation is even worse. That's technically false. With that much cap space, we can make up for the fact that we might have to pay the tax and still get the guys we're after. This is an extremely young team, the free agents we'll be targeting will be mostly offensive line and wide receiver. And wide out is the only one of those two positions where we'll be paying a premium anyways. Don't expect every penny to be spent. "The Process" is clearly based on building through the draft and attempting to add quality free agents where applicable. 1
twoandfourteen Posted November 4, 2018 Author Posted November 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Luka said: Money will be spent along the offensive line where applicable. Possibly a wide receiver if a good one is available. Also have some defensive guys that will need contracts. Looks like we'll have a very high draft pick which will either be traded to move down or an edge rusher will be selected. You may be right that there will be a crappy team tax but how is that really any different than any other year for the past two decades? If there isn't one available, then what?
mjt328 Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 There will be talent available. We just need to find it. One year ago, the Chicago Bears were in a very similar position as us. They had a rookie QB with virtually no weapons, and a terrible offensive line. It was hard to get excited about their Free Agent pickups. Taylor Gabriel. Tre Burton. Bradley Sowell. Even Allen Robinson was coming off an ACL injury. But all of those guys have made a big impact, and really helped turn the team around.
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