26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: You can only laugh. I'll admit I didn't watch the game, so I didn't see if he deserves the praise. Shanahan is making it a habit of making QBs look good. I think he can coach, wasn't a fan of his dad. What's his list now? RG3, they did ruin hin though Kirk Cousins Matt Ryan, never trust a man with two first names Jimmy G Beathard Mullens None sustained success to this point so maybe I'm overstating it. It underscores the sad state of affairs regarding the BIlls' QB situation when a complete unknown matches our team's total TD passes thrown for the season in 1 bleepin' game. 2
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Nick Wagoner ESPN Staff Writer By the time Mullens' first regular season playing experience was done, he was 16-of-22 for 262 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions for a passer rating of 151.9. And he let his emotions show when speaking to Fox about his performance after the game. "I am calm, cool and collected until I have to bring my emotions out, and they'll come out," he said. "I just love football. I have grown up playing since second grade and this is why you play, for something like this." With each completed pass, Mullens seemed to reach another historical benchmark. Mullens' passer rating of 151.9 was the best by a quarterback making his debut with at least 20 attempts since 1970. Over the past 25 seasons, Mullens joined Marc Bulger, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Marcus Mariota as the only players to throw for three or more touchdowns in their first game, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Mullens is the first player since Carson Wentz to throw a touchdown in his first career game on the team's opening drive and one of four to do it in the past 15 seasons, along with Wentz, Mariota and Matt Ryan. Mullens is the first player in 49ers history to throw three touchdowns in his first game with the team, according to Elias Sport Bureau.
Ol Dirty B Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It underscores the sad state of affairs regarding the BIlls' QB situation when a complete unknown matches our team's total TD passes thrown for the season in 1 bleepin' game. It's not a great point, and I love watching the defense. I think Bills fans are one of the few fanbases who'd rather watch their team on defense because they are more entertaining. I honestly think it has been that way for a decade so some think that's the way it should be. But I hate watching this offense. At this point I'd rather watch my team lose 31 to 51 like a lower tier big 12 team. New England scored 9 points and I'm already thinking that might not be doable without a td by the defense or special teams. This offense is going to be worse than the winless browns and Detroit teams. 1
Chicken Boo Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, H2o said: Kyle Shanahan /thread. He will surpass Andy Reid as the best QB whisperer this game has ever seen. He's damn close now
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Chicken Boo said: /thread. He will surpass Andy Reid as the best QB whisperer this game has ever seen. He's damn close now Jon Gruden's pathetic Oakland Raiders. /thread
Chicken Boo Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Jon Gruden's pathetic Oakland Raiders. /thread No arguements.
Bing Bong Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: It's truly unreal how the entire Bills fanbase has gone from saying the QB is EVERYTHING to saying the QB is NOTHING without the supporting cast. the QB makes the supporting caste when Tyrod is the QB (cause he never threw Sammy for 1000 yards or anything) and NOTHING when JA is QB. Get your facts straight. Tyrod has to win it alone. JA needs all the help he can get. Our receivers (unchanged but for the amazing Deonte Thompson) are the exact same as last year, and NOW we find out they're bad. But it can't get worse than Tyrod haha, can't get worse than Derek Anderson, a few said can't get worse than JA. Why can't we find the damn bar when we see it on the sidelines every Sunday with #2 on its back. The "can't get worst mentality" leads you on the perpetuating search for the worst. How about "could be better, who's better? who provides better help?" not "can't be worse, give me the next guy off the street. Oops he worse, well can't get worst than THAT.. NEXT!" Edited November 2, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks 3
Scott7975 Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 This is why I don't believe in the "its all about QB." There are too many no name guys that come in and rip it up, while every QB we have brought in here looks like the worst in the league by a huge margin.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Edited November 2, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
LSHMEAB Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: the QB makes the supporting caste when Tyrod is the QB (cause he never threw Sammy for 1000 yards or anything) and NOTHING when JA is QB. Get your facts straight. Tyrod has to win it alone. JA needs all the help he can get. Our receivers (unchanged but for the amazing Deonte Thompson) are the exact same as last year, and NOW we find out they're bad. But it can't get worse than Tyrod haha, can't get worse than Derek Anderson, a few said can't get worse than JA. Why can't we find the damn bar when we see it on the sidelines every Sunday with #2 on its back. The "can't get worst mentality" leads you on the perpetuating search for the worst. How about "could be better, who's better? who provides better help?" not "can't be worse, give me the next guy off the street. Oops he worse, well can't get worst than THAT.. NEXT!" That was the subtle point I was trying to get across. We should have stuck with Tyrod until we knew we had something better. We're like a dude who hadn't had a girlfriend in years that ended up getting a 6, then dumped her because we were convinced a 10 was waiting to hit us up on Tindr. That's a discussion I'd rather leave in the past. The real issue I have is that fans don't seem to have the ability to objectively judge what they're watching. Some are twisting themselves in knots to protect Allen and virtually every post revolves around that pre-conceived hopeful narrative. Just freaking call it like you see it! 2
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That was the subtle point I was trying to get across. We should have stuck with Tyrod until we knew we had something better. We're like a dude who hadn't had a girlfriend in years that ended up getting a 6, then dumped her because we were convinced a 10 was waiting to hit us up on Tindr. That's a discussion I'd rather leave in the past. The real issue I have is that fans don't seem to have the ability to objectively judge what they're watching. Some are twisting themselves in knots to protect Allen and virtually every post revolves around that pre-conceived hopeful narrative. Just freaking call it like you see it! Edited November 2, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1
1ManRaid Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 I thought this was going to be a Mahomes-esque "someone needs to be fired for not drafting this kid" thread.
uticaclub Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 50 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: This is why I don't believe in the "its all about QB." There are too many no name guys that come in and rip it up, while every QB we have brought in here looks like the worst in the league by a huge margin. A lot has to do with coaching. Rex & McDermott think running the ball and playing defense is how you win in today's NFL, it's not 2 1
Ol Dirty B Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That was the subtle point I was trying to get across. We should have stuck with Tyrod until we knew we had something better. We're like a dude who hadn't had a girlfriend in years that ended up getting a 6, then dumped her because we were convinced a 10 was waiting to hit us up on Tindr. That's a discussion I'd rather leave in the past. The real issue I have is that fans don't seem to have the ability to objectively judge what they're watching. Some are twisting themselves in knots to protect Allen and virtually every post revolves around that pre-conceived hopeful narrative. Just freaking call it like you see it! A lot of us were calling the receivers garbage last year. Some, much of the same, project Allen to be great next year. Just give him a year and he'll do things as a pro he couldn't do in high school. That crowd was saying matthews, Jones, and whoever was better than woods and Watkins. At a certain point people have to just realize they've been wrong about almost everything. I think we need to make the betting 101 thread mandatory, because I'd do the opposite of what they say everyday regarding football. Edited November 2, 2018 by Ol Dirty B 1 1
LSHMEAB Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: A lot of us were calling the receivers garbage last year. Some, much of the same, project Allen to he great next year. Just give him a year and he'll do things as a pro he couldn't do in high school. That crowd was saying matthews, Jones, and whoever was better than woods and Watkins. At a certain point people have to just realize they've been wrong about almost everything. I think we need to make the betting 101 thread mandatory, because I'd do the opposite of what they say everyday regarding football. Right. I called the receivers garbage last year and I continue to call the receivers garbage. The problem I have is the people who called the receivers "fine" last year and NOW refer to them as trash because "Allen is the future" and all opinions must revolve around the premise that if he plays poorly, it's not his fault. Tyrod is what he is, but he's a hell of lot more effective than anything we have right now. One could argue he was the perfect QB for McDermott. Edited November 2, 2018 by LSHMEAB 2
Alphadawg7 Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Don’t paint such a dramatic picture. Chill. Pointing out obvious coaching discrepancies doesn’t seem like wallowing to me. It is wallowing because this board can’t even process what the Bills are doing and have done right. This board is so off base on this team right at a level never seen before on this board, and that’s saying a lot. This board needs to chill 3 1 1
Ol Dirty B Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Right. I called the receivers garbage last year and I continue to call the receivers garbage. The problem I have is the people who called the receivers "fine" last year and NOW refer to them as trash because "Allen is the future" and all opinions must revolve around the premise that if he plays poorly, it's not his fault. Tyrod is what he is, but he's a hell of lot more effective than anything we have right now. One could argue he was the perfect QB for McDermott. But McDermott wanted nothing to do with him. He's really conflicting as a coach. The defense is great, but he just mismanages the offense like I've never seen before. The defense should rightfully be frustrated with him and the offense. Yet at the same time, he's responsible for a lot of these guys success. And the offense, well some, like Shady should be frustrated with him. He's making great money for an RB, but I'm surprised how he has handled the pressers and everything publically.
Ol Dirty B Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: the QB makes the supporting caste when Tyrod is the QB (cause he never threw Sammy for 1000 yards or anything) and NOTHING when JA is QB. Get your facts straight. Tyrod has to win it alone. JA needs all the help he can get. Our receivers (unchanged but for the amazing Deonte Thompson) are the exact same as last year, and NOW we find out they're bad. But it can't get worse than Tyrod haha, can't get worse than Derek Anderson, a few said can't get worse than JA. Why can't we find the damn bar when we see it on the sidelines every Sunday with #2 on its back. The "can't get worst mentality" leads you on the perpetuating search for the worst. How about "could be better, who's better? who provides better help?" not "can't be worse, give me the next guy off the street. Oops he worse, well can't get worst than THAT.. NEXT!" 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: That was the subtle point I was trying to get across. We should have stuck with Tyrod until we knew we had something better. We're like a dude who hadn't had a girlfriend in years that ended up getting a 6, then dumped her because we were convinced a 10 was waiting to hit us up on Tindr. That's a discussion I'd rather leave in the past. The real issue I have is that fans don't seem to have the ability to objectively judge what they're watching. Some are twisting themselves in knots to protect Allen and virtually every post revolves around that pre-conceived hopeful narrative. Just freaking call it like you see it! You two are on the same page. Tyrod was by no means a hall of Famer, but he was in the Alex Smith class in my opinion. He found ways to win and make plays. He didnt throw for 300 yards, but he made plays with his legs. And I agree with criticisms that sometimes he relied on that too much. But at the end of the day, he won games, was every bit the competitor Allen is, and won games. Everyone loves the hurdle Allen made.... But this regime and the people who bought in preach you need a QB who can make plays from the pocket. Allen has shown nothing from the pocket, and everyone goes crazy with the hurdle. It was a fun moment, that's cool. But tell me that if Tyrod did the same thing everyone would have went crazy? I see a trend in Bills fans and I don't like it. Tyrod gave everything to this team and they treated him like *****. Not giving him his money, constantly restructuring, not sure if he is starter or not, yanking him for Nate ***** Peterman. And they drafted some big white kid who throws the ball far (always incomplete), but you know, it's Buffalo and it snows. He has big hands ( I think our GM with a background in communications said "he's got big hands" but whatever), and they drafted him to throw from the pocket. All I've seen is one nice pass on a wheel route, him jump over a guy, and him tell the defense he's with them. It's all garbage. And I left that underlying for good reason because i don't want to get into it, but i think it exists. Watch Eric Reids comments. I'm really starting to be bothered by this team and fanbase. They can go 0-16. I'm still a fan, but when I start to get a weird vibe, I'm out. And I might be, much to the happiness of many. People will lambast Tyrod and in the next sentence talk about how Peterman wasn't given a fair opportunity. Their is definitely some underlying stuff going on with this regime, coaching staff, and segments of this fanbase. Edited November 2, 2018 by Ol Dirty B 2
SoTier Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Bills2ref said: I would say it’s pretty unlikely he is legit. How many UDFA become good NFL QBs? Not saying it’s impossible. But not very likely. More than likely the gameplan and the raiders Swiss cheese defense is helping. Tony Romo, Jake Delhomme (I believe) and Kurt Warner were all UDFAs, so a very few do come in and do well. 4 hours ago, Cmdjr85 said: How do you die hard bills fans and footballs fans fail to understand that it dosent matter who plays qb for the team. The offensive line is terrible. Worst in the league. I mean what do you expect. Nathan Peterman was a waste of a fifth round draft pick in 2017 -- the Bills could have easily signed an UDFA QB to play as poorly as Peterman has. Peterman's last pick six wasn't because of failed OL protection; it was because he got suckered into attempting to make a throw he doesn't have the ability to make. It's his poor arm and brain that are the problem not the Bills OL as crappy as it is. 2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: You can only laugh. I'll admit I didn't watch the game, so I didn't see if he deserves the praise. Shanahan is making it a habit of making QBs look good. I think he can coach, wasn't a fan of his dad. What's his list now? RG3, they did ruin hin though Kirk Cousins Matt Ryan, never trust a man with two first names Jimmy G Beathard Mullens None sustained success to this point so maybe I'm overstating it. Actually, both Kirk Cousins and Matt Ryan have had very nice careers, with and without Shanahan. 53 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: It is wallowing because this board can’t even process what the Bills are doing and have done right. This board is so off base on this team right at a level never seen before on this board, and that’s saying a lot. This board needs to chill ROTFLMAO. The only two things that the Bills are doing "right" is demonstrating how clueless and incompetent the entire Bills organization and its ownership are ... and how to play the worst offensive football seen in this century.
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