Success Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Zay will make a lot of good plays for the Bills over the years. He’ll also have head scratching drops and mistakes. A good 3 or maybe even 2. The talent is there - much more potential than the usual revolving door of JAGs we bring in. Getting a true #1 will help him.
Ol Dirty B Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Success said: Zay will make a lot of good plays for the Bills over the years. He’ll also have head scratching drops and mistakes. A good 3 or maybe even 2. The talent is there - much more potential than the usual revolving door of JAGs we bring in. Getting a true #1 will help him. The revolving door of jags have been better than him for his whole career outside of benjamin. Foster and McKenzie this year. Thompson last year.
Success Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: Zay is a JAG to this point. That’s not an unfair assessment. He still has a lot to prove - I think the skill set is there.
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) I just dont see the toughness, the hands, or most importantly the speed from Zay. Getting outplayed by an UDFA and a guy like McKenzie speaks volumes. I dont think Zay is even a lock to make the 53 next year...assuming we bring in 2-3 more guys. Edited December 17, 2018 by The Firebaugh Kid 1
BillsMafia13 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Not only is his value dropping by getting outplayed by McKenzie and Foster, he just doesnt show anything that separates him from me coming off the street. Honestly I dont think he can even handle the zip Allens puts on the ball which is pretty scary.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 10 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Zay is a JAG to this point. there are those calling him a total failure which I kind of disagree with based on his vast improvement with a Passing QB. has anyone said he's great?
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If the light had gone on for Zay Jones a few weeks ago, someone should tell him it's gone back off.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: Vast improvement? Where? He's nonexistent for the most part. He shows flashes but drops way too many balls and doesn't get separation. He's a JAG to this point. if you can't see an improvement ....... you must be blind. Zay Jones of 2018 is far better than Zay Jones of 2017. 1
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: if you can't see an improvement ....... you must be blind. Zay Jones of 2018 is far better than Zay Jones of 2017. The problem is Zay Jones of 2018 isn't getting it done.
blacklabel Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 The light is on, it just flickers sometimes. Guy still leads the team in receptions. Consistency is his main issue right now. I said this in another thread but I think he's fighting himself most of all. He might be in his own head, thinking too much and just not allowing himself to play fast.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Agreed. He went from absolutely useless to useless on most weeks. 12 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: The problem is Zay Jones of 2018 isn't getting it done. Was he ever supposed to be the #1 guy? He's got one more season to prove he's worthy of keeping or not. More repetition with Josh (who is still learning) and not with Nate or Derrick playing QB.
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Was he ever supposed to be the #1 guy? McDermott traded up for him though. He's "supposed" to be a Robert Woods type player. Edited December 17, 2018 by WhyteDwarf
SCBills Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I'm fine with him being a 3/4 with McKenzie next year. Foster is our 2 and we will go out and get another 1/2 WR. Unfortunately, that's all I expect from Zay anymore... not great when a 2nd Round Pick is relegated to fighting for the #3 spot, but that's where he is heading into 2019.
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) The light went on, then the bulb burned out. Edited December 17, 2018 by PromoTheRobot
racketmaster Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) If Jones can't play well on special teams, I just don't see a lot of value in keeping him around. He has done nothing in 2 years to show that he warrants being a top 3 or 4 wr in this league. He knows where to line up and what routes to run. Other than that he offers no real speed, separation, run after the catch, consistent pass catching and/or the ability to make difficult/contested catches. He has been clearly passed by McKenzie and Foster and more weapons will be added next year. If he ends up as our 5th or 6th wr, then he will need to be an asset on special teams. Edited December 17, 2018 by racketmaster 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: McDermott traded up for him though. He's "supposed" to be a Robert Woods type player. He was supposed to be better. I can see why people think that. Who were the QB's passing to him? Turdrod, Nate, Anderson, Barkley and the rookie Allen. But hey, you can rag on Zay all day long if it makes you feel better. Curious - Did you hear what the announcers said during the game? Only one WR has caught TD's in the Red Zone by Josh Allen. Kelvin Benjamin was much worse
MrEpsYtown Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 A lot of regression the last couple of weeks. A critical part of his game that seems lacking is that he does not come back to the ball. He kind of sits and wait for the ball to come to him. That gives defenders space and time to close to the ball. He needs to attack the ball and catch the damn thing. 1
Best Player Available Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: I just dont see the toughness, the hands, or most importantly the speed from Zay. Getting outplayed by an UDFA and a guy like McKenzie speaks volumes. I dont think Zay is even a lock to make the 53 next year...assuming we bring in 2-3 more guys. Agree, with the exception of him making the 53 next year. They paid way to much to draft him. He is still on his rookie contract, so they will keep him. That said he is at best a complimentary player and should be a rotational #4 or#5 receiver. It's hard to believe he starts every week. That shows how dire the receiving corps are. Learning the position in the NFL is one thing. Dropping TD passes in the endzone (and elsewhere) thrown between the numbers is signs of a less than average player. 1 1
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He was supposed to be better. I can see why people think that. Who were the QB's passing to him? Turdrod, Nate, Anderson, Barkley and the rookie Allen. But hey, you can rag on Zay all day long if it makes you feel better. Curious - Did you hear what the announcers said during the game? Only one WR has caught TD's in the Red Zone by Josh Allen. Kelvin Benjamin was much worse He's a receiver that drops a lot of balls. He cannot reliably perform his job function, sorry.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Was he ever supposed to be the #1 guy? He's got one more season to prove he's worthy of keeping or not. More repetition with Josh (who is still learning) and not with Nate or Derrick playing QB. So Zay has some very interesting game logs. His best game this season was the Jets game, with Barkley throwing to him. 8 receptions on 11 targets, 73%, 93 yds. His worst game this season was last night, 1 reception on 6 targets, but he has not played as well since Allen came back. Does he just have trouble handling what Allen throws? Is he hurt again and not announcing it? What?
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