Has the light finally gone on for Zay Jones?

[Beast]

A mediocre receiver. Ideally, the type of guy that would be a good #4.

[Misterbluesky]

2 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

A mediocre receiver. Ideally, the type of guy that would be a good #4.

And he was supposed to be our next Woods.Woods is not only a better pass catcher ..he blows Jones away when it comes to blocking people.

[KD in CA]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

FWIW   (for what its worth)  

 

Zay Jones is still the Bills leading WR

with 392 yards on 37 catches and 60 targets.  61.7%. 

with 2 TD catches 

 

Just think, if had 40 catches for 519 yards and 3 TDs, he’d be Sammy Watkins, worth $15m/yr and the apple of TSW’s eye!

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said:

And he was supposed to be our next Woods.Woods is not only a better pass catcher ..he blows Jones away when it comes to blocking people.

We really cannot analyze our WRs (other than Benjamin) as they have played with 3 QBs in TC and 4 QBs in the regular season in 10 games...You cannot get any consistency with that kind of plan.  The fact that Jones has got more catches in spite of all these major distractions tells me that he can be a good player for us and his commtiment to this team is 100%....We still need a replacement for Benjamin..but with Foster and McKenzie stepping up it may not be too bad.

[3rdand12]

3 minutes ago, ganesh said:

We really cannot analyze our WRs (other than Benjamin) as they have played with 3 QBs in TC and 4 QBs in the regular season in 10 games...You cannot get any consistency with that kind of plan.  The fact that Jones has got more catches in spite of all these major distractions tells me that he can be a good player for us and his commtiment to this team is 100%....We still need a replacement for Benjamin..but with Foster and McKenzie stepping up it may not be too bad.

Really.

 This is the current answer.

Josh and Zay need some quality time together this offseason. Can see Jones becoming a very reliable receiver for Allen. to soon still.

 keep in mind? I was a Jones hater right through this years preseason. He has been whittling me down : ) to like him, dude does play to the whistle Every snap

[Augie]

4 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

A mediocre receiver. Ideally, the type of guy that would be a good #4.

 

I don’t know how this goes, but he's light years ahead of last year. What might he become with a serious 100 catch threat on the field with him, and a year to work and develop with Allen? Hard for me to say at this point, but I think he could be a decent #2 or more likely #3. 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

I believe the light went on a number of games ago.

[CowgirlsFan]

I don't know but at least the light was on to make that key catch on the onside kick last Sunday.

[HappyDays]

He is now good enough to catch passes that hit him in the hands when he has at least a yard of separation, which is an upgrade from last year. He runs good routes and he is a capable blocker. He still isn't good enough to be a true #2. He doesn't have great speed or separation, or the ability to win contested catches. Wouldn't be a bad 2nd round pick except we traded up for him and that clearly wasn't worth it.

Edited November 29, 2018 by HappyDays

[Misterbluesky]

15 minutes ago, ganesh said:

We really cannot analyze our WRs (other than Benjamin) as they have played with 3 QBs in TC and 4 QBs in the regular season in 10 games...You cannot get any consistency with that kind of plan.  The fact that Jones has got more catches in spite of all these major distractions tells me that he can be a good player for us and his commtiment to this team is 100%....We still need a replacement for Benjamin..but with Foster and McKenzie stepping up it may not be too bad.

ganesh,I think we've seen what Jones has to offer and simply put,He's replaceable and is a very average player.He's not the best route runner and he severely lacks when it comes to his blocking abilities.In all honesty,I think Beane and his staff will have up to 4 new names at that position come next year's final opening day roster...Jones is probably 50/50 to be on that roster...Foster...who knows, since he could be a flash in the pan...same thing with McKenzie.jmho

36 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t know how this goes, but he's light years ahead of last year. What might he become with a serious 100 catch threat on the field with him, and a year to work and develop with Allen? Hard for me to say at this point, but I think he could be a decent #2 or more likely #3. 

#2's and #3's need to be blockers as well as catchers....Jones is a poor blocker.

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

ganesh,I think we've seen what Jones has to offer and simply put,He's replaceable and is a very average player.He's not the best route runner and he severely lacks when it comes to his blocking abilities.In all honesty,I think Beane and his staff will have up to 4 new names at that position come next year's final opening day roster...Jones is probably 50/50 to be on that roster...Foster...who knows, since he could be a flash in the pan...same thing with McKenzie.jmho

#2's and #3's need to be blockers as well as catchers....Jones is a poor blocker.

I thought  he had a very nice block on the McKenzie TD run last week, but maybe it wasn’t him. Even the (usually idiot) commentators raved about it. I think he’s very willing, but was just too busy catching balls in college to block much. Last year was, for whatever reason, virtually lost. I think he’s more solid this year and can keep improving there. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by Augie

[Misterbluesky]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

I thought  he had a very nice block on the McKenzie TD run last week, but maybe it wasn’t him. Even the (usually idiot) commentators raved about it. I think he’s very willing, but was just too busy catching balls in college to block much. Last year was, for whatever reason, virtually lost. I think he’s more solid this year and can keep improving there. 

Well sir,it will be a long time before we know his fate but may no mistake about it,his name will be discussed by the staff this off season.

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Well sir,it will be a long time before we know his fate but may no mistake about it,his name will be discussed by the staff this off season.

 

No question about that. I don’t claim to know, but like most people have gut suspicions.....so pretty much a guess. And I’m wrong all the time, so being wrong here wouldn’t shock me!  ? Time will tell, and if he CAN step up, that’s one less position of need. Fingers crossed. 

[greeneblitz]

yeah, 1 year is what our patient fans are calling "finally". It's common knowledge to most fans that wide receivers take more time to develop then say running backs.

[Misterbluesky]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

. And I’m wrong all the time, so being wrong here wouldn’t shock me!  ?  Fingers crossed. 

According to our wives.

[Fan in Chicago]

3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

And he was supposed to be our next Woods.Woods is not only a better pass catcher ..he blows Jones away when it comes to blocking people.

Yes Woods was a better catcher out the gates and Jones is roughly on path to equal Woods' rookie season. Well understood that Jones took a longer time to adjust to the NFL. But note that while Jones is on track for roughly a 600 yard season, Woods never crossed 700 yards with the Bills in any season. As for blocking, Jones had a good pass block and also a block on the McKenzie TD run. He is definitely getting better.

Woods was pretty much the same player throughout his Bills career and is having a career year in this his 7th season with a red hot Goff throwing to him, with a very pass-happy offense and some very good complementary WRs. Jones has has squat across from him and a rookie throwing to him. 

 

Not sure which exact season of Woods you are comparing Jones' to but dont you see a good upward trajectory ? I dont harbor hopes of Jones developing into a #1 but think he can be a good #2 or at worst a #3 if he continues growing. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by Fan in Chicago

[John from Riverside]

So I am seriously wondering if the instant grat crowd understand that players mature at different rates?

 

First year - a disaster of a season.....seriously looked like a bust

 

Second year....say what you will....he is improved....he is catching the ball when it is thrown to him.....he looks likes like a legit number 3 guy

 

Third year?  Who knows.....but he is not a bust

[Beast]

Zay Jones is truley a dime a dizen wide reciever. That isn‘t meant as bashing the kid. If he was a 2 or 3 guy, I would think I could recall at least one play in his almost 2 year career that made me take notice. I can’t. Unless you want to count him levitating.

[BillnutinHouston]

12 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Woods is not only a better pass catcher ..he blows Jones away when it comes to blocking people.

 

Is there something he could have done better on the McKenzie touchdown play?  Or are you making a more general observation about the consistency of his blocking?

 

In McD's presser yesterday he did single out Jones for his blocking Sunday, but what does he know.

Edited November 29, 2018 by BillnutinHouston

[John from Riverside]

4 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

Zay Jones is truley a dime a dizen wide reciever. That isn‘t meant as bashing the kid. If he was a 2 or 3 guy, I would think I could recall at least one play in his almost 2 year career that made me take notice. I can’t. Unless you want to count him levitating.

Because his first year was a disaster.......your not going to see anything in that year

 

We are into the 2nd year and he is light years better then he was in the first year.

 

Patience grasshopper