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2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lol I will worry about that when it happens.. till then I’m enjoying the ride.. to many get way to serious and forget to enjoy it... (and we have a very spoiled fan base we have adults who can’t remember when the Pats were well god awful!! And that was before Brady and BB.. that didn’t change till Kraft and Parcells came in in the mid 90’s.)

Well, thanks for stopping by to let us all know that. Really thoughtful.  Hearing how wonderful your lives are as fans is just what I need after a game like tonight.

 

Really - thanks so much.

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5 minutes ago, 1st&ten said:

 

Really---what's the embarrassment ?  We were overmatched going in---everyone expected the Pat's to lay 45-50 points on us---we held them into the 4th quarter.

Our old QB off the street got picked on a good play by NE--do they good play good defensive. Who many other teams have held Brady without a TD this year ?

The embarrassment is the offence that they keep putting on the field every week and the fact that they are not a threat to score, ever....

 

They are a historically bad offence

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Don't look now, but Nathan Peterman with a QB rating of 114.6 vs. the Pats*** tonight. If it were any other defense vs. any other coaching genius, I'd think, "Meh, no big deal." But this was against the Patriots***! Peterman is back, baaaaybeee!

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8 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

The embarrassment is the offence that they keep putting on the field every week and the fact that they are not a threat to score, ever....

 

They are a historically bad offence

 

Oh come on Apuusz---you've been around long enough to know lots of teams have had bad years with crappy offensives. Yeah the Bills offensive is bad but our easier games are coming up & we might look better

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22 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

and we have a very spoiled fan base we have adults who can’t remember when the Pats were well god awful!! And that was before Brady and BB.. that didn’t change till Kraft and Parcells came in in the mid 90’s.

I remember those days and miss the hell out of them.  I'll be glad to see them come back around.

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21 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

More time and building a core isnt going to help if they arent good coaches and GM which they have get to show they are anything special . It wont matter if they fired a coach every season unless they finally find  a quality coach and/or GM. 

McD was hired because he was the defensive minded coach the owner wanted.  Modern NFL dictates you need a young and innovative OC.  Daboll was a bad hire.  the staff is full of good coaches.  Give the GM time.  Two more drafts and then you will see if he was a bad hire or not.  

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33 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lol I will worry about that when it happens.. till then I’m enjoying the ride.. to many get way to serious and forget to enjoy it... (and we have a very spoiled fan base we have adults who can’t remember when the Pats were well god awful!! And that was before Brady and BB.. that didn’t change till Kraft and Parcells came in in the mid 90’s.)

Brady has defied the odds, I'll give you that....Hell, he was MVP just this past year and threw for 500 yards in the SB.....I'm one of those who call him the GOAT...... in my mind, that debate was over after the Seattle SB.....everything he's done since just cements his legacy.....but he is absolutely missing throws this year that were completions in the past.....At 41, it is more likely than not the beginning of the end.....is he still a great QB ?...yeah, sure....but he's on the decline IMO....he's coming from the top of the mountain, so the decline might take a while, but it's finally happening IMO....

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12 minutes ago, Nitro said:

McD was hired because he was the defensive minded coach the owner wanted.  Modern NFL dictates you need a young and innovative OC.  Daboll was a bad hire.  the staff is full of good coaches.  Give the GM time.  Two more drafts and then you will see if he was a bad hire or not.  

You cant give coaches and GMs 4+ years to see if they have what it takes, it's not how the business works and it sets your franchise back way too far. You have to see improvement and so far these guys keep trying to take steps backwards instead of forwards. They decided to strip it of any talent it had to bring in their own guys just making things worse and requiring more time before they would be able to show any signs of improvement

29 minutes ago, 1st&ten said:

 

Oh come on Apuusz---you've been around long enough to know lots of teams have had bad years with crappy offensives. Yeah the Bills offensive is bad but our easier games are coming up & we might look better

Yeah but how many have historically bad offences? 

 

The offense last year was bad, this year it is even worse and it worse  because they neglected it again to continue pooling resources to the defence in a time where the league is shifting to teams needing high powered offences. Teams are winning because they can out score the other, not because their defence can hold them.

 

This team has not shown they have an offence that can score even o  the worst defences in the league. The games coming up arent that much easier

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24 minutes ago, Nitro said:

McD was hired because he was the defensive minded coach the owner wanted.  Modern NFL dictates you need a young and innovative OC.  Daboll was a bad hire.  the staff is full of good coaches.  Give the GM time.  Two more drafts and then you will see if he was a bad hire or not.  

most of us will die at some point, 2 more years of this a few of us might die before that ever happens if we continue this pace

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This offense is historically bad - only two touchdowns in the past 5 weeks. No team has averaged fewer points per game (10.88 at current) since the 2006 Oakland Raiders (10.5). In fact, no team has averaged less than 14 points per game since Kansas City did it in 2012. Guess who their offensive coordinator was? Yeah, our very own Brian Daboll.

 

This is much larger than Anderson/Peterman/Allen looking suspect.

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1 minute ago, October 1918 said:

This offense is historically bad - only two touchdowns in the past 5 weeks. No team has averaged fewer points per game (10.88 at current) since the 2006 Oakland Raiders (10.5). In fact, no team has averaged less than 14 points per game since Kansas City did it in 2012. Guess who their offensive coordinator was? Yeah, our very own Brian Daboll.

 

This is much larger than Anderson/Peterman/Allen looking suspect.

I agree, complain about talent... a very legitimate argument...but the historical bad offense goes beyond just talent alone.  Although I think it has a major influence 

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1 hour ago, 1st&ten said:

 

Really---what's the embarrassment ?  We were overmatched going in---everyone expected the Pat's to lay 45-50 points on us---we held them into the 4th quarter.

Our old QB off the street got picked on a good play by NE--do they good play good defensive. Who many other teams have held Brady without a TD this year ?

 

Oh thank God we didn't give up 40 to 50. I'd be so embarrassed.

 

We should be proud we only lost by 19 and never had a chance.

 

This team ***** sucks, and it just being a rebuild isn't an excuse. They only know one side of the ball, the defense came out great. How long before starters pull a Gilmore? You think these guys will want to play here year in and year out when the offense does nothing? 

 

That ***** was awful. Running the ball at the end of the first half and things like that just show you have no confidence in your team and just want to hang around.

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8 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Oh thank God we didn't give up 40 to 50. I'd be so embarrassed.

 

We should be proud we only lost by 19 and never had a chance.

 

This team ***** sucks, and it just being a rebuild isn't an excuse. They only know one side of the ball, the defense came out great. How long before starters pull a Gilmore? You think these guys will want to play here year in and year out when the offense does nothing? 

 

That ***** was awful. Running the ball at the end of the first half and things like that just show you have no confidence in your team and just want to hang around.

People can keep bringing up picks and cap space this offseason, but what FA  is going to want to come here on offence? This offence is completely inept and the front office/coaching staff hasnt shown they know what to do to make it capable, let alone good. And because of these guys wasting another season, there are defenders who may decide they dont want to stick around any longer either. Why would someone on this defence want to stay and possibly waste more years of their career waiting g for the offence to get to a point where they can score double digits in a game?

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