Browns: OC Todd Haley fired

[Happy]

53 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

On the surface at least, it would’ve made sense to keep Haley who has a proven track record with Pittsburgh and was liked by Roethlisberger, for Mayfield’s development while axing Hue—but I’m sure more will be coming out in the next few days as to why both were let go instead of just 1. Or, it could just be because, well, Cleveland.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/relationship-between-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-showing-signs-of-friction-again/

Big Ben and Haley didn't always get along, there were points last season where they wouldn't even speak to one another.  Haley seems like a difficult person to get along with, so it probably just isn't the Browns.

 

 

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/02/05/Le-Veon-Bell-Todd-Haley-Ben-Roethlisberger-steelers-super-bowl/stories/201802050097

"The more we learn about Haley’s relationship with Roethlisberger, though, the more irreconcilable it seemed. "

[DrDawkinstein]

So Greggo is last man standing.

 

Who is running the offense? They making Tyrod OC, or just going to let Baker draw up plays in the dirt?

 

Already hearing rumors of Cleveland going after Lincoln Riley after the season...

[Buffalo Boy]

Leave it to the Browns to still find a way to outdo our suckiness?

Edited October 29, 2018 by Buffalo Boy

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/relationship-between-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-showing-signs-of-friction-again/

Big Ben and Haley didn't always get along, there were points last season where they wouldn't even speak to one another.  Haley seems like a difficult person to get along with, so it probably just isn't the Browns.

 

 

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/02/05/Le-Veon-Bell-Todd-Haley-Ben-Roethlisberger-steelers-super-bowl/stories/201802050097

"The more we learn about Haley’s relationship with Roethlisberger, though, the more irreconcilable it seemed. "

 

 

Players who play for Haley, hate Todd Haley.

 

Remember Larry Johnson's tweet?:

“My father played for the coach from “rememeber the titans. Our coach played golf. My father played for redskins briefley. Our coach. Nuthn. my father got more credentials than most of these pro coaches…..google my father!!!!!!!”

[416BillsFan]

Cleveland always finds a way to up the ante!

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Leave it to the Browns to still find a way to outdo our suckiness?

 

it's in the (lake erie) water.

[dollars 2 donuts]

9 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

With no skin in that team, it is at least entertaining to watch the carousel go 'round and 'round on that part of Lake Erie's shores...plus misery loves company they say! 

 

 

Man, I hate to say it, but it does indeed.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

The Cleveland Browns:  Does the phrase 'screw up a one car funeral' come to mind?

[YoloinOhio]

Who could have predicted this?

 

 

[Fadingpain]

Hue Jackson is running out of cards to play.

The next shoe to drop will be him being fired at year's end, if he makes it that far.

 

Cleveland needs a really thorough house cleaning, including GM.

 

EDIT:  Hue didn't make it that far!

 

Edited October 29, 2018 by Fadingpain

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Malazan]

Just now, Fadingpain said:

Hue Jackson is running out of cards to play.

The next shoe to drop will be him being fired at year's end, if he makes it that far.

 

Cleveland needs a really thorough house cleaning, including GM.

 

 

 

Hue Jackson was already fired..

Edited October 29, 2018 by jeremy2020

[JerseyBills]

Now that's the organization I know!

[BmarvB]

Rick Dennison might be available?

[Fadingpain]

9 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

Hue Jackson was already fired..

I just came back here to edit my post, having caught on that he was fired as well! 

 

That is hilarious.  I didn't think he had much time left, but I thought he had more than none!

 

Edited October 29, 2018 by Fadingpain

[Rochesterfan]

3 minutes ago, BmarvB said:

Rick Dennison might be available?

 

Nope happily employed in NY.

[Fadingpain]

5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Now that's the organization I know!

Yeah but seriously, the entire top end of that organization needs to be replaced, including GM.  So these are moves in the right direction.

 

BTW:  Hue Jackson's favorite pastime was reminding people he is the head coach.  What is he going to do now!?  He'll never be HC in this league again.

 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

20 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/relationship-between-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-showing-signs-of-friction-again/

Big Ben and Haley didn't always get along, there were points last season where they wouldn't even speak to one another.  Haley seems like a difficult person to get along with, so it probably just isn't the Browns.

 

 

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/02/05/Le-Veon-Bell-Todd-Haley-Ben-Roethlisberger-steelers-super-bowl/stories/201802050097

"The more we learn about Haley’s relationship with Roethlisberger, though, the more irreconcilable it seemed. "

Point taken, thanks for clarifying that; you're right, definitely no bed of roses, and I should've been more careful with my word choices. I was going off of statements like this, where Big Ben expressed appreciation for Haley's play calling and disputed any interpersonal issues:

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/12/11/5196608/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-comments-dolphins-nfl-week-14

 

And also the fact that his best production years occurred during Haley's tenure:

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					207	205	139-65-1	4358	6790	64.2	53355	343	5.1	181	2.7	97	7.9	7.7	12.2	257.8	94.0		487	3210	6.89	6.71	6.7	30	40	171
2004	22	PIT	QB	7	14	13	13-0-0	196	295	66.4	2621	17	5.8	11	3.7	58	8.9	8.4	13.4	187.2	98.1		30	213	7.41	6.93	9.2	4	5	11
2005	23	PIT	QB	7	12	12	9-3-0	168	268	62.7	2385	17	6.3	9	3.4	85	8.9	8.7	14.2	198.8	98.6		23	129	7.75	7.53	7.9	2	2	11
2006	24	PIT	QB	7	15	15	7-8-0	280	469	59.7	3513	18	3.8	23	4.9	67	7.5	6.1	12.5	234.2	75.4	55.5	46	280	6.28	4.97	8.9	2	3	11
2007*	25	PIT	QB	7	15	15	10-5-0	264	404	65.3	3154	32	7.9	11	2.7	83	7.8	8.2	11.9	210.3	104.1	75.1	47	347	6.22	6.55	10.4	1	2	14
2008	26	PIT	QB	7	16	16	12-4-0	281	469	59.9	3301	17	3.6	15	3.2	65	7.0	6.3	11.7	206.3	80.1	45.7	46	284	5.86	5.21	8.9	4	4	10
2009	27	PIT	QB	7	15	15	9-6-0	337	506	66.6	4328	26	5.1	12	2.4	60	8.6	8.5	12.8	288.5	100.5	69.0	50	348	7.16	7.12	9.0	2	3	14
2010	28	PIT	QB	7	12	12	9-3-0	240	389	61.7	3200	17	4.4	5	1.3	56	8.2	8.5	13.3	266.7	97.0	68.2	32	220	7.08	7.35	7.6	2	3	12
2011*	29	PIT	QB	7	15	15	11-4-0	324	513	63.2	4077	21	4.1	14	2.7	95	7.9	7.5	12.6	271.8	90.1	65.0	40	269	6.89	6.51	7.2	1	1	12
2012	30	PIT	QB	7	13	13	7-6-0	284	449	63.3	3265	26	5.8	8	1.8	82	7.3	7.6	11.5	251.2	97.0	71.3	30	182	6.44	6.77	6.3	2	3	10
2013	31	PIT	QB	7	16	16	8-8-0	375	584	64.2	4261	28	4.8	14	2.4	67	7.3	7.2	11.4	266.3	92.0	58.1	42	282	6.36	6.24	6.7	1	3	13
2014*	32	PIT	QB	7	16	16	11-5-0	408	608	67.1	4952	32	5.3	9	1.5	94	8.1	8.5	12.1	309.5	103.3	68.7	33	172	7.46	7.82	5.1	2	3	15
2015*	33	PIT	QB	7	12	11	7-4-0	319	469	68.0	3938	21	4.5	16	3.4	69	8.4	7.8	12.3	328.2	94.5	71.1	20	141	7.76	7.15	4.1	1	1	12
2016*	34	PIT	QB	7	14	14	10-4-0	328	509	64.4	3819	29	5.7	13	2.6	72	7.5	7.5	11.6	272.8	95.4	61.8	17	141	6.99	6.98	3.2	2	2	12
2017*	35	PIT	QB	7	15	15	12-3-0	360	561	64.2	4251	28	5.0	14	2.5	97	7.6	7.5	11.8	283.4	93.4	66.3	21	139	7.07	6.95	3.6	3	4	14
2018	36	PIT	QB	7	7	7	4-2-1	194	297	65.3	2290	14	4.7	7	2.4	75	7.7	7.6	11.8	327.1	94.5	71.6	10	63	7.25	7.14	3.3	1	1

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Please tell me your kidding that Freddie "Kitchen Sink" Kitchens gets that job?!

 

That-a-boy, KS!

 

edit:

 

@NoHuddleKelly12

 

thank you for catching that, NoHuddle!

 

i truly have no idea who that guy is.

 

 

Edited October 29, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts