Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 2 hours ago, KD in CA said: Once....that was some ***** up *****. What was it like? 7 minutes ago, Greybeard said: According to the authors, the words are exactly what they say they are with no attachment to drugs. It is simply a song about loss of innocence.
row_33 Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, Greybeard said: According to the authors, the words are exactly what they say they are with no attachment to drugs. It is simply a song about loss of innocence. Why not Lewis Carroll has no access to drugs that showed up 50 years after he died
Greybeard Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Why not Lewis Carroll has no access to drugs that showed up 50 years after he died I'm not sure I follow you, but it seems you are saying it doesn't matter what the original theme was, if it could be interpreted about drugs later, then it is about drugs. Yes? No?
row_33 Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, Greybeard said: I'm not sure I follow you, but it seems you are saying it doesn't matter what the original theme was, if it could be interpreted about drugs later, then it is about drugs. Yes? No? Alice in Wonderland is the best hindsight drug story but he wasn’t a drug user
Augie Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Alice in Wonderland is the best hindsight drug story but he wasn’t a drug user I have no dog in this fight, but you know this how? You could go with the odds, but to be so sure? Such a firm declarative assertion....
row_33 Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Beatles gave their first drug-tingled single with Help! opening up the doors was a phrase that had to be about acid by early 1965, and nobody had a clue about that or that he was probably very very serious in his statement here ticket to ride was released earlier in 1965, the first drone-filled song by them, not the first drone to hit the very competitive UK charts though 3 minutes ago, Augie said: I have no dog in this fight, but you know this how? You could go with the odds, but to be so sure? Such a firm declarative assertion.... Well, his biography is well established, he was very up there in the Anglican church acid wasn’t invented for many later years, he wasn’t a laudanum or opiate user he had a bit of weirdness but he wasn’t on drug trips to come up with Alice
Augie Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: Beatles gave their first drug-tingled single with Help! opening up the doors was a phrase that had to be about acid by early 1965, and nobody had a clue about that or that he was probably very very serious in his statement here ticket to ride was released earlier in 1965, the first drone-filled song by them, not the first drone to hit the very competitive UK charts though Well, his biography is well established, he was very up there in the Anglican church acid wasn’t invented for many later years, he wasn’t a laudanum or opiate user he had a bit of weirdness but he wasn’t on drug trips to come up with Alice Hallucinogens have been around forever. Peyote and mushrooms and who knows what else? I’m not an expert, and NOT saying he was, but there’s no way to know or exclude. It may be an educated guess, at best. But I wouldn’t doubt your assumptions.
SinceThe70s Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 "I wasn't looking too good but I was feeling real well":
Greybeard Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: "I wasn't looking too good but I was feeling real well": I looked at the title and thought "what kind of drug are they talking about, a laxative?" 1
mrags Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 How on earth did we get through 3 pages and not a single link for:
Pete Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 I found a better video version. To me this is the champ of drug songs. The first line- "I live for drugs. I am the white rabbit"
row_33 Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 If not already mentioned, Frank Zappa and Mike Love were two others completely anti-drug. Mike directly confronted and then had Van ***** Parks rubbed out as a collaborator with Brian after completing this masterpiece, the ending words being too much acid-induced fatouousness to him: Over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield Over and over the thresher and hovers the wheatfield
Pete Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 5 hours ago, row_33 said: If not already mentioned, Frank Zappa and Mike Love were two others completely anti-drug. Mike directly confronted and then had Van ***** Parks rubbed out as a collaborator with Brian after completing this masterpiece, the ending words being too much acid-induced fatouousness to him: Over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield Over and over the thresher and hovers the wheatfield There is an exception to every rule. Zappa and The Beach Boys are the rarest exception of great music not made while indulging drugs
T&C Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 21 hours ago, Pete said: There is an exception to every rule. Zappa and The Beach Boys are the rarest exception of great music not made while indulging drugs Maybe Zappa and Love weren't but no way can that speak for the bands overall. I mean, Volman and Kaylan weren't exactly "take them home to meet mom" kinds of guys for instance. Even if we're just talking weed I'll bet most of them indulged to some degree. 1
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