Jerome007 Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Do you guys watch other games on the regular? I used to, now I will catch a few pieces here and there. Still, it's good to have comparisons and an outside perspective. First. very few teams, if any in fact, are complete. All have some glaring weaknesses on offense and/or defense. Good OLines are rare but damn do they make a difference. And if we analyzed their draft picks and trades, all of them have failures. It's like when we watch other teams we mostly notice the obvious and mainly their good things, while we overanalyze the Bills and all their mistakes. That out of the way, it's quite obvious that the play selection on offense here is too basic. Forget the limited talent. Watch some opening drives by other teams: the reverses, quick passes to the slant, misdirections, play actions, etc. could ALL be done by the Bills. The long pass plays are rare for the most part but they have some - while for some reason Allen didn't have some in his last games. Because of playcalling, 1-3 times a game a receiver is wide open. And you know what, it happened here too before. You think O'Reilly got so open because of his speed? Daboll really to up his game! He calls way too basic plays. Talent is limited but not THAT limited! Anything you guys notice? Again the goal is not to vomit all over the Bills staff as typical here and as if other teams didn't make also many bonehead moves. But just to discuss what could be so much better quickly with the current roster.
wagon127 Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I mean, of course other teams make mistakes, but I just don't care too much about that. Other teams fans do the exact same to their team. I see fans of the steelers and Broncos, groan about how awful their teams are, and they won several super bowls. The only team that seemingly never struggles is the Patriots, and unfortunately it is impossible to ignore them here in buffalo. I do my best to follow other teams, but I refused to spend 1pm-11:30pm on sundays doing nothing but watch football. Most people, myself included, only get 2 days off work a week, and I would like to make the most of it. Normally I watch the Bills game, and then find other activities to do. There is no better example of a team that made a ton of mistakes, lost their starting quarterback, and still won the Super Bowl then the Eagles last year. They made a bunch of awful trades 3 or 4 years ago, and right now they are the defending champs. That being said, Eagles fans were pissed when those awful trades happened and rightfully so. I will be mad about the Bills until they give me a reason to not be mad. Same with the Sabres, I may be on the down swing of being mad about them. 1
jethro_tull Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Yeah and unfortunately the better teams seem to play much "bigger", faster and quicker than the Bills. This has been the case for way too long. 4
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 You also have to remember that on offense we are very lacking in the talent department. Plus with a young QB its hard to run a complicated system like KC and Rams run with young QBs. Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan have so many options when they step to the line and can read defenses. We don't have the personnel or the coach i'm afraid to run the newer type of offense that has been shown to be effective. Allot of teams only air it out occasionally but have so much movement behind the line and the RPO's that you just pick apart whatever the defense isn't covering. I would love to see that type of quick strike option play in Buffalo and I believe Allen would thrive in it.
SoTier Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I watch lots of other teams' games, which is why I see just how out of step with the rest of the NFL the Bills are. Hell, they are even out of step with previous Bills teams from 2014-2016. While other teams make mistakes with personnel, no team has given away its best talent with little to show for it as consistently as the Bills have done since John Butler and AJ Smith left for San Diego back in 2001, and no Bills team -- maybe no team in NFL history -- has stripped itself of so much talent in such a short time and replaced it with so little. 5
vorpma Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 3 hours ago, wagon127 said: I mean, of course other teams make mistakes, but I just don't care too much about that. Other teams fans do the exact same to their team. I see fans of the steelers and Broncos, groan about how awful their teams are, and they won several super bowls. The only team that seemingly never struggles is the Patriots, and unfortunately it is impossible to ignore them here in buffalo. I do my best to follow other teams, but I refused to spend 1pm-11:30pm on sundays doing nothing but watch football. Most people, myself included, only get 2 days off work a week, and I would like to make the most of it. Normally I watch the Bills game, and then find other activities to do. There is no better example of a team that made a ton of mistakes, lost their starting quarterback, and still won the Super Bowl then the Eagles last year. They made a bunch of awful trades 3 or 4 years ago, and right now they are the defending champs. That being said, Eagles fans were pissed when those awful trades happened and rightfully so. I will be mad about the Bills until they give me a reason to not be mad. Same with the Sabres, I may be on the down swing of being mad about them. I'm in the Nashville area and when Buffalo beat the Titans the Tennessee fans made our usual angry "posters" on TBD look minor league! Face it, we live in the fast food era, we want it and we want it now! I have been with this team since 1965 and have seen times far more depressing than what we have now. McDermott and Beane are not doing that bad and I am willing to give them at least until December 2019 and not torch everything they do! I am actually getting excited about the Sabres! 3
stuvian Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Watching other teams is much more enjoyable because of my disproportionate emotional investment in the Bills 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I watch other teams because of fan duel and my fantasy teams. We really are bottom feeders. Watching a Bills game is more like emotional torture at this point. Every time I see the good teams, I think why can't the Bills do that? Why don't the Bills run that play? Why don't the Bills make those plays? 1
JPP Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Dont compare this team to others it would be just too depressing.....hell even last season they played like crap for the most part......we did not deserve to make it into the playoffs at the way they played.....we got extremely lucky only because a good part of the AFC were not that impressive and most importantly ANDY DALTON......
Boca BIlls Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 The Bill's always seem to be the team that neglects the most important aspect of the NFL... passing league is passing.
Jerome007 Posted October 27, 2018 Author Posted October 27, 2018 Some of you are incurable LOL Like if other teams were all so much better. The Bills were average for the most part. Only this year have they become doormats. Anyway, one of my points is that designed plays that can be practiced even by the least talented teams should be seen. KC is loaded to the core so of course you can't replicate their versatility and complexity. Cheatriots have Brady but I watched their opening drive and 95% of the success was all scheme and basic execution. As the game goes on of course talent takes over by a wide margin. But good coaching should help have some initial success, and then help get some ryhtmn and be tailored to your players' strengths and weaknesses. It seems a crap shoot to me so far, as if Daboll relies on luck, and can't really analyze tendencies and his own players. Roman designed great plays but was bad at calling them during games. His obsession at supposedly adjusting to the other teams' strengths meant the Bills O had no identity. It's called outsmarting yourself. With Daboll I see little logic though in his defense he discovers Allen and the team's identity as they go along.
without a drought Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Yes I have and it looks like the forward pass is now legal. 5 2
LeGOATski Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I see a lot of the Rams because I'm in their broadcast area and it's depressing to watch Bob Woods making plays. 2
1st&ten Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 2 hours ago, BillsRdue said: I watch other teams because of fan duel and my fantasy teams. We really are bottom feeders. Watching a Bills game is more like emotional torture at this point. Every time I see the good teams, I think why can't the Bills do that? Why don't the Bills run that play? Why don't the Bills make those plays? Oh well, check out a NY Giants game----maybe that will cheer you up. 2
stuvian Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Jerome007 said: Some of you are incurable LOL Like if other teams were all so much better. The Bills were average for the most part. Only this year have they become doormats. Anyway, one of my points is that designed plays that can be practiced even by the least talented teams should be seen. KC is loaded to the core so of course you can't replicate their versatility and complexity. Cheatriots have Brady but I watched their opening drive and 95% of the success was all scheme and basic execution. As the game goes on of course talent takes over by a wide margin. But good coaching should help have some initial success, and then help get some ryhtmn and be tailored to your players' strengths and weaknesses. It seems a crap shoot to me so far, as if Daboll relies on luck, and can't really analyze tendencies and his own players. Roman designed great plays but was bad at calling them during games. His obsession at supposedly adjusting to the other teams' strengths meant the Bills O had no identity. It's called outsmarting yourself. With Daboll I see little logic though in his defense he discovers Allen and the team's identity as they go along. was this written by a human being or an algorithm?
zow2 Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Just about every NFL fanbase thinks their teams offensive line sucks.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) no, I don't. maybe a few plays of a mon or thus nite game, otherwise no. the bills are the only thing keeping (as painful as it is at times) me watching. otherwise the refs with the bad calls and rule changes are ever more increasing my disinterest in the nfl period. Edited October 28, 2018 by no name
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 When I watch other NFL teams it makes me realize how inept we are on offense
Boatdrinks Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, zow2 said: Just about every NFL fanbase thinks their teams offensive line sucks. And most of them are right. OL play is mediocre across the NFL. Very few teams have a dominant line. Even so, offenses are scoring more throughout the league. The Bills havent managed to join in this offensive resurgence.
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