Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 I was watching channel 2 news this morning and Adam Benini and Vic Carrucci were saying that with the way this team is playing that McDermott JUST HAS TO BE on the hot seat. Then they bemoan how bad they played against the Colts and it's just unacceptable for the defense to give up all those points to the 1-5 colts. Maybe they forgot how critical turnovers are (from the offense) to getting blown out. Guess they forgot how we demolished the Vikings at home and that a superior team can get their butts handed to them by a lesser team. What I find sad is these clowns can't see the long game that is going on here and that this offseason is going to be used to finish most of the rebuild that is taking place. McDermott is going nowhere. 11 2 3 5
eanyills Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I was watching channel 2 news this morning and Adam Benini and Vic Carrucci were saying that with the way this team is playing that McDermott JUST HAS TO BE on the hot seat. Then they bemoan how bad they played against the Colts and it's just unacceptable for the defense to give up all those points to the 1-5 colts. Maybe they forgot how critical turnovers are (from the offense) to getting blown out. Guess they forgot how we demolished the Vikings at home and that a superior team can get their butts handed to them by a lesser team. What I find sad is these clowns can't see the long game that is going on here and that this offseason is going to be used to finish most of the rebuild that is taking place. McDermott is going nowhere. What exactly has McBeane shown that gives you any confidence in the “long game?” I’m not saying they should be fired this year but the burner’s definitely been turned on. If they look like a tire fire the rest of this year and start off poorly next season, they could very well be gone sooner than later. 7
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 He should be on the hot seat. The offense is less than unacceptable and his defense is not consistent. Special Teams keep making critical mistakes and there is no discipline on either side of the ball. This many pre-snap penalties are indefensible at this point. McD better be able to process that what he is doing is not working. 6
PIZ Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 They don't realize that Bean and McDermott and the Pegulas all expected this to happen. They expected 2017 and 2018 to be bad seasons. Being a playoff team in 2017 was great, but it gave EVERYONE unrealistic expectations for 2018. 2017 and 2018 were always about tearing it down, while adding some key pieces or young players growing (Hyde, Poyer, Allen, Edmunds, Dawkins, Jones) and 2019 was about building it back up. That has always been the plan. McDermott hasn't been preaching about the "PROCESS" for nothing. 11
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 ESPN + has an article right now. The Bills offense is on pace to be the worst ever in over 30 years of tracking. They are 52.3% worse than the average NFL offense today. 4 1 2
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, eanyills said: What exactly has McBeane shown that gives you any confidence in the “long game?” I’m not saying they should be fired this year but the burner’s definitely been turned on. If they look like a tire fire the rest of this year and start off poorly next season, they could very well be gone sooner than later. He broke a 17 year playoff drought. 8 2
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 They have no idea what a QB is supposed to look like and unless everyone is fired before this draft, they are going to be rebuilding 3 years from now when they find out Allen is nothing but a big arm. 1 2
Scott7975 Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Yeah 1-5 doesn't mean the Colts didn't put up points. They put up 34 points in two other games. 3
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 They will be singing his praises when this team gets the offensive talent it needs next offseason. McD got the team to the playoffs in his first year....he is not going ANNNNYYYYWHEEERE 4 1
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 I agree that McD and Beane should get all of the 2019 Off-season to be able to nearly finish the rebuild and then the 2019 season to see if their plan has generally worked. So, I'm for letting this season play out and seeing where the Bills are at the half-way point next year. That said, IF McD is fired, then I think Beane stays and gets to pick his HC and I think that's only fair. Then the next HC should be an Offensive innovator i.e. McVay / Nagy type of HC. I'm willing to see if McD can manage the entire team and I like the overall changes that have occurred, but if it goes south next year - there will be no excuses. Two Off-seasons with a bunch of money to spend in 2019, 3 full Drafts - only 2 by Beane, and time to build your core players and a year to develop your QB, regardless of injury, if you're developing your QB correctly, in his second year he should be making huge strides. It shouldn't stop in year two, but the leap between year one and year two and then again from year two year three should all be really, really significant. IMHO of course. 2
NewEra Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 I really hate the media. No matter who the coach is, if you’re not contending for a SB, the media wants you fired. Anyone here err live in Cinci and can brief me on how the Cinci media treat Marvin Lewis. Dudes been there forever and has never been a SB contender. There were a few weeks, in his 87 years as head coach, where they may have been considered contenders for the afc. I can’t inagjne how many negative Nancy articles have been written about him. There has to a Cinci news version of Jerry Sullivan. 1 1
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, BuffaloBaumer said: They have no idea what a QB is supposed to look like and unless everyone is fired before this draft, they are going to be rebuilding 3 years from now when they find out Allen is nothing but a big arm. In your opinion....which doesnt mean much 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: ESPN + has an article right now. The Bills offense is on pace to be the worst ever in over 30 years of tracking. They are 52.3% worse than the average NFL offense today. And the fact that they are not making changes to it should tell you something about their overall strategy 1
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I was watching channel 2 news this morning and Adam Benini and Vic Carrucci were saying that with the way this team is playing that McDermott JUST HAS TO BE on the hot seat. Then they bemoan how bad they played against the Colts and it's just unacceptable for the defense to give up all those points to the 1-5 colts. Maybe they forgot how critical turnovers are (from the offense) to getting blown out. Guess they forgot how we demolished the Vikings at home and that a superior team can get their butts handed to them by a lesser team. What I find sad is these clowns can't see the long game that is going on here and that this offseason is going to be used to finish most of the rebuild that is taking place. McDermott is going nowhere. No they aren't. They are rightfully raising questions that should be discussed. 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 2
Jerome007 Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) While I was, was, of the opinion McD and Beane should get 3 years so we see what they do with the 2019 huge cap space and long draft pick list, this 7th blowout in 24 games should put him on the hot seat. Not fired, but certainly feeling the heat. If he keeps control of the locker room and players keep competing hard, fine. If they go belly up from this point on, he has a good chance to follow. Edited October 24, 2018 by Jerome007 1 1
eanyills Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: He broke a 17 year playoff drought. Yes, in a historically unreplical season where they backed in off another team collapsing. How impressive. 1
ngbills Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 What do people miss about how BAD this team is? That is never expected. You can expect to be rebuilding but this team has very little to be positive about. Go watch the Rams from a few years since people like to compare. They did not look like the Bills. The had multiple building blocks. We will be in year three shortly and have no weapons for the future on offense - WR, RB or TE. The OL has Dawkins and no one that could be considered a building block. The QB position is still a huge ?. The defense has much more potential but outside of White and Edmunds there are guys that will age out in the next few season - Williams, Hughes, Alexander, Star L, etc. 2 2
BillsFan130 Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: He broke a 17 year playoff drought. He may also break the record for fewest points scored in a season going back to the AFL days 3 3
Foxx Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) if one is going to just stick their head in the sand and fail to acknowledge that there are obvious warning signs that McCoach might not be the guy, well, i don't know what to tell you. i hope it gets turned around but you can't say, that even in its current state, things are hunky dory. they aren't. Edited October 24, 2018 by Foxx 5
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 I will give them the offseason. With the exception of Allen, the FO pretty much ignored the offense in the offseason. I am curious to see what their plan is this offseason with all the cap room and draft picks we have 2
Rc2catch Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 I fully support this regime. I am all in seeing free agency and the draft next year along with the final product starting game one. For me, seeing what team hits the field next season is the judging point in my eyes. After that season finishes I will either be happy or getting out my pitchfork. Anyone calling for a firing right now is INSANE. There are plenty of questions and hints of things to be concerned about with this staff, but until they finish the job they started McD should be safe. Come next year if they completely wiff on free agency and have a bad draft and put another bad product on the field and suck I fully support a change to an offensive minded coach who won’t tear the defense apart. I expected bad things last year and this year, and I have the patience to laugh this season off at how badly they look. 2 2
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