Koko78 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It's terrorism. It's horrible... Still not a "bombing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Still not a "bombing". Sending explosives to targets is not bombing, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Benjamin Franklin said: Still can't respond when I quote you quoting yourself. You misquoted me, like you misquoted Trump yesterday and ran here to do so. If you read the quote you linked I was responding to Tom's quote on a specific point. But details don't matter when cognitive dissonance is kicking your ass over and over and over again. You remain terrible at this whole "reading comprehension" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Benjamin Franklin said: Except in fact, you did. You posited two FF theories. Generally...he doesn't. Greg definitely has a preference for conspiracies - if I had to guess, it's more because his writers' background biases him towards nicely wrapped-up plots. And in the greater context of his two years' of posts, it might end up being the same thing. But 1) he does present facts and derive theories from them, not the other way around (usually - the pipe non-bomber is a notable exception), and 2) he is amenable to correction. Neither is a trait held by true conspiracy theorists. Plus, while he may have posited two conspiracy theories, to posit is not to argue in favor of. I posit things I don't believe all the time, as should anyone with a pretense of rationality. It's a necessary step in falsifying hypotheses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Generally...he doesn't. Greg definitely has a preference for conspiracies - if I had to guess, it's more because his writers' background biases him towards nicely wrapped-up plots. And in the greater context of his two years' of posts, it might end up being the same thing. But 1) he does present facts and derive theories from them, not the other way around (usually - the pipe non-bomber is a notable exception), and 2) he is amenable to correction. Neither is a trait held by true conspiracy theorists. Plus, while he may have posited two conspiracy theories, to posit is not to argue in favor of. I posit things I don't believe all the time, as should anyone with a pretense of rationality. It's a necessary step in falsifying hypotheses. QFT. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 28 minutes ago, Benjamin Franklin said: Who is getting arrested and when? Is this like when HRC was about to get detained? My popcorn got soggy waiting for that one so I'll pop a fresh bowl. It's likely to start with McCabe and Strzok, and will roll up from there. That's where the mounds of evidence points. As to HRC, the evidence of her malfeasance was more than enough to prompt House Judiciary Chair Bob Goodlatte to demand her indictment or the resignations of both Loretta Lynch and James Comey. "Personal" attacks? By quoting him quoting himself? Good one! You're aware that the board saves your posts, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Plus, while he may have posited two conspiracy theories, to posit is not to argue in favor of. I posit things I don't believe all the time, as should anyone with a pretense of rationality. It's a necessary step in falsifying hypotheses. He posited nonsense, then later quoted himself positing nonsense because he was so excited about it. I'm sure you're just as eager to defend Tiberius's theories as a "pretense of rationality." You caught the stupid. Shake it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Benjamin Franklin said: He posited nonsense, then later quoted himself positing nonsense because he was so excited about it. I'm sure you're just as eager to defend Tiberius's theories as a "pretense of rationality." You caught the stupid. Shake it off. Reading is hard. So is comprehension. If you read the conversations, or the threads I quoted them in, you'd understand what was going on. But that's not what you're interested in. You're interested in remaining attached to your world view - evidence be damned. CD is a SOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 52 minutes ago, Koko78 said: What bombings? Those fake bombings that the dems were all lining up for. I heard Bernie (sometimes a Dem) actually published his address so he could join the latest #Metoo movement. Unfortunately the feds caught the perp before Nancy, Chuck & Cherokee Liz could get theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Benjamin Franklin said: He posited nonsense, then later quoted himself positing nonsense because he was so excited about it. I'm sure you're just as eager to defend Tiberius's theories as a "pretense of rationality." You caught the stupid. Shake it off. No...because Tiberius is irrational. Greg is rational. He collects evidence, analyses it, and develops a theory to explain it and predict future evidence that may appear. That his theories are often crackpot (but not universally, which is an important point) does not make him irrational. What's more, like I said, he has and does accept criticism of his theories (you'll note that I provided just that above: stating that conspiracy theories are the crutch of the intellectually immature) and even change his mind. You should also note that, in "proving" he's "promoting" conspiracy theories, from his list of "theories in order of possibility," you cherry picked the "false flag" theory that he specifically considered least possible, and specifically by a wide margin, below three others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No...because Tiberius is irrational. Greg is rational. He collects evidence, analyses it, and develops a theory to explain it and predict future evidence that may appear. That his theories are often crackpot (but not universally, which is an important point) does not make him irrational. What's more, like I said, he has and does accept criticism of his theories (you'll note that I provided just that above: stating that conspiracy theories are the crutch of the intellectually immature) and even change his mind. You should also note that, in "proving" he's "promoting" conspiracy theories, from his list of "theories in order of possibility," you cherry picked the "false flag" theory that he specifically considered least possible, and specifically by a wide margin, below three others. You are such an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You are such an idiot Which part can you empirically demonstrate is wrong? (Note: "empirically" means "with evidence." Not just pulling something out of your ass.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 21 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Reading is hard. So is comprehension. If you read the conversations, or the threads I quoted them in, you'd understand what was going on. But that's not what you're interested in. You're interested in remaining attached to your world view - evidence be damned. CD is a SOB. I don't think it's maintaining his world view that's important to him. It's his self view that's important. He gets bored, wants to stop in, criticize people, feel superior, and leave. He's not here for a discussion, or to prove anything. Except what he feels he's proving to himself. His occasional stops here are to snipe and insult. He considers this forum and discussion beneath him. This is cathartic for him as it helps maintain his sense of self and validate his opinions. He cherry picks comments, sets up strawmen, insults, and leaves. He used to be able to carry on a better dialogue. But he's likely a casualty of the political climate we're in right now. Angry and trying to reinforce his view of himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Joe Miner said: I don't think it's maintaining his world view that's important to him. It's his self view that's important. He gets bored, wants to stop in, criticize people, feel superior, and leave. He's not here for a discussion, or to prove anything. Except what he feels he's proving to himself. His occasional stops here are to snipe and insult. He considers this forum and discussion beneath him. This is cathartic for him as it helps maintain his sense of self and validate his opinions. He cherry picks comments, sets up strawmen, insults, and leaves. He used to be able to carry on a better dialogue. But he's likely a casualty of the political climate we're in right now. Angry and trying to reinforce his view of himself. Don't blame him, he's doing what his husband tells him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Don't blame him, he's doing what his husband tells him to do. I think we need a book about what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 21 hours ago, DC Tom said: No...because Tiberius is irrational. Greg is rational. He collects evidence, analyses it, and develops a theory to explain it and predict future evidence that may appear. That his theories are often crackpot (but not universally, which is an important point) does not make him irrational. What's more, like I said, he has and does accept criticism of his theories (you'll note that I provided just that above: stating that conspiracy theories are the crutch of the intellectually immature) and even change his mind. You should also note that, in "proving" he's "promoting" conspiracy theories, from his list of "theories in order of possibility," you cherry picked the "false flag" theory that he specifically considered least possible, and specifically by a wide margin, below three others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, peace out said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: What would this board be without your valuable wisdom? "TWO SCOOPS SARCASM TWO SCOOPS HILLARY SUX" - Koko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, peace out said: What would this board be without your valuable wisdom? "TWO SCOOPS SARCASM TWO SCOOPS HILLARY SUX" - Koko sure beats two scoops of idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, peace out said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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