YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, nucci said: why trade Hughes? Because everyone is crying that we have no talent so they want to trade any talent we have, and also make sure we don’t trade for any talent. It’s TSW science. 2
blacklabel Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Because everyone is crying that we have no talent so they want to trade any talent we have, and also make sure we don’t trade for any talent. It’s TSW science. Makes no sense when I see people calling for trades on the good players this team has. Just because they're in a rebuild doesn't mean they're going to get rid of every single veteran on the team. There are a number of veteran guys that are firmly locked in for their future plans and Hughes is one of them. DL is one of the groups that's rounding out into a really good unit. They've built that. Why remove a cornerstone of it? I dunno, I understand people get frustrated and wanna "blow it all up" but there is a plan in place despite things looking like chaos at the moment. Injuries and some underachievers have derailed things a bit but that stuff happens. Hitting "reset" in the middle of a reset just guarantees a longer time until they're competitive again. They finally decided to tear it all down and run a true rebuild, which so many have wanted, here we are halfway through the year and so many people wanna throw in the towel. Not gonna happen. Pegulas trust these guys and they all knew 2018 would be a rough one. But they've said they're mostly done with trimming the roster, now it's about adding to where they need to upgrade whether that's through trade, FA or the draft and developing things. Obviously they'll still sign and cut players as usual but I'm pretty sure they have their foundation and now they wanna start building the house.
aristocrat Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: why trade Hughes? Want that first rounder. If we trade those two were top two pick I think. Get bosa get wr other first.
3rdand12 Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 49 minutes ago, Tyrion said: To what end? Why keep Shady when we won't win many games anyway? This is a rebuild. Get rid of his contract and aging legs and get YOUNG aging legs ? Have you seen him run ?
Tyrion Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: aging legs ? Have you seen him run ? lol gtfo
3rdand12 Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Because everyone is crying that we have no talent so they want to trade any talent we have, and also make sure we don’t trade for any talent. It’s TSW science. Fact. bird in the hand is better than two in the bush is not a valid concept here sometimes. Bird in the hand is very nearly always better. Greed is short sighted for the most part. Just now, Tyrion said: lol gtfo : )
BADOLBILZ Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tyrion said: To what end? Why keep Shady when we won't win many games anyway? This is a rebuild. Get rid of his contract and aging legs and get YOUNG It's a matchup league and Shady is a matchup winner who can create big plays. Without matchup winners it's hard to judge the QB. That's why you keep Shady. Re-building or not is irrelevant..........passing on a 4th round pick is a pittance of a price to pay for an opportunity to help and evaluate your QB of the future. Edited October 28, 2018 by BADOLBILZ 2
Tyrion Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's a matchup league and Shady is a matchup winner who can create big plays. Without matchup winners it's hard to judge the QB. That's why you keep Shady. Re-building or not is irrelevant..........passing on a 4th round pick is a pittance of a price to pay for an opportunity to help and evaluate your QB of the future. And what if someone offers a 2nd? Or a Desean Jackson? Edited October 28, 2018 by Tyrion
klos63 Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 2 hours ago, nucci said: why trade Hughes? The objective for the Bills is to acquire draft picks and have lots of cap space. The objective for other teams is to win. 1
nucci Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, klos63 said: The objective for the Bills is to acquire draft picks and have lots of cap space. The objective for other teams is to win. ahhh, I get it...makes sense now 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Because everyone is crying that we have no talent so they want to trade any talent we have, and also make sure we don’t trade for any talent. It’s TSW science. I'm starting to come around......other teams try to win...we want draft picks and cap space.
purple haze Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 4 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: aging legs ? Have you seen him run ? Yes he has, but Shady is 30 so that automatically means he can't do anything, reality be damned. 1
PIZ Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Is Kevin Massare (Locked on Bills) a legit source?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 7:36 AM, Bill from NYC said: While "success" is certainly subjective, those are extremely interesting numbers. It goes a long way (imo) to explaining the losing seasons we have suffered. Thanks very much for this post. That we should get as many first round picks as possible. On 10/26/2018 at 10:28 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: FWIW Pay up Howie 1
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Tyrion said: To what end? Why keep Shady when we won't win many games anyway? This is a rebuild. Get rid of his contract and aging legs and get YOUNG Depends on the compensation....it makes no sense to just give him away 6 hours ago, klos63 said: The objective for the Bills is to acquire draft picks and have lots of cap space. The objective for other teams is to win. Its called a rebiuld.....I know you actually have not seen the bills do it....but this is what it looks like
reddogblitz Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Fact. bird in the hand is better than two in the bush is not a valid concept here sometimes. Bird in the hand is very nearly always better. Greed is short sighted for the most part. : ) You're talking to Mr Bird in hand here. We got another season next year. We need a good RB and DE. Jerry and Shady are that. And another thing. If you find yourself in a hole, stop diggin. Trading away these 2 guys for a possible maybe is digging with a backhoe IMHO. 7 hours ago, nucci said: ahhh, I get it...makes sense now I'm starting to come around......other teams try to win...we want draft picks and cap space. We, unlike those silly teams that try to win, understand that the entire year revolves around the draft where winners are losers and losers are winners. 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: That we should get as many first round picks as possible. Pay up Howie Yeah Howie. Shady for Foles heads up. Not a fan of dumping Shady, but I would do that. Edited October 29, 2018 by reddogblitz
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: You're talking to Mr Bird in hand here. We got another season next year. We need a good RB and DE. Jerry and Shady are that. And another thing. If you find yourself in a hole, stop diggin. Trading away these 2 guys for a possible maybe is digging with a backhoe IMHO. We, unlike those silly teams that try to win, understand that the entire year revolves around the draft where winners are losers and losers are winners. Yeah Howie. Shady for Foles heads up. Not a fan of dumping Shady, but I would do that. Don't need Foles , he wouldn't do any better here . we need high round picks
reddogblitz Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Don't need Foles , he wouldn't do any better here . we need high round picks we need a QB. We can't put all of our eggs in the Allen basket.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: we need a QB. We can't put all of our eggs in the Allen basket. No, what your are really saying is you don't want Allen. Try being patient for more than 5 games. The other rookies aren't doing great either and it's going to take time.
reddogblitz Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No, what your are really saying is you don't want Allen. Try being patient for more than 5 games. The other rookies aren't doing great either and it's going to take time. No I'm NOT saying this. I think we need another option on the roster in case Allen either gets injured or sucks or the other guy is just better. We don't have that now. I hope Josh turns out good, but there is at least a chance he won't You always have to have a good contingency plan for everything. Especially it you have any urgency in winning. Edited October 29, 2018 by reddogblitz
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: No I'm NOT saying this. I think we need another option on the roster in case Allen either gets injured or sucks or the other guy is just better. We don't have that now. I hope Josh turns out good, but there is at least a chance he won't You always have to have a good contingency plan for everything. Especially it you have any urgency in winning. season is over, we just need to get as many assets for this offseason.
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