RochesterRob Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 4:56 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Put into context what Peace pointed out earlier. The first bomb, which was real and contained explosive material from the reports, was hand delivered to Soros. Who could do that? There are cameras all over the property, the only person who could get close enough to hand deliver it - without drawing suspicion - would be someone who was supposed to work there. So you hand deliver the first one, the real one, knowing it won't go off. Then you send duds/fake ones through the mail (because you can't risk them going off before they're delivered) to hit all at the same time, but ultimately aren't "real" or capable of going off. That's riffing off the top of my head. Expand Easier said than done in your scenario to Soros. A bomber would have to know how to get a package labeled to get it from Soros' assistant to Soros himself. What are the odds of a bomber guessing correctly on that? Doubtful that the Soros assistant would be in on that as that person now goes under the microscope of scrutiny. Again, I would point out that the security likely found at these places would not allow a stranger to walk up to a mail box or gate.
Warren Zevon Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 4:59 PM, DC Tom said: Looks like the point where everyone just starts getting paranoid about random garbage now... Expand 1
boyst Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 If you align all of the addresses of each and trace the lines they make a perfect "Q". 2
GG Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:02 PM, DC Tom said: Not enough data; I could invent multiple patterns to fit this. Expand Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? 2
RochesterRob Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:02 PM, peace out said: (Early) Reports from NBC are the package(s) (not sure what one or ones) found today contain working explosives. Expand Maybe I have been watching too much television but it seems unlikely a lab report would have been put together so quickly never mind released to a lone news outlet as opposed to having a general press conference.
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 4:53 PM, RochesterRob said: Except for that not one bomb has worked. If this was a group effort and they were serious about doing harm then they put the wrong person in charge of making the bombs. These bombs were never intended to work. Why? Expand Presumption that because they didn't work, they weren't intended to work. There's no basis for establishing intent from failure.
Kevbeau Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:05 PM, GG said: Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? Expand To be fair, they could have been sitting around some mailroom and once the alarm went out people started looking (shrugs)
B-Man Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Possibilities: 1. Conservative jerk who embraces violence 2. Apolitical nut 3. Leftist trying to impugn conservatives and help Dems change the subject away from caravans and leftist violence. The elite will tell you we can't even whisper about #2 or 3. Conservatives are and remain unequivocally and totally against this bombing garbage whether it is a leftist, a nut or a conservative who decided to abandon our values and commit a crime. Jail him. Don't let leftists lie about you when you refuse to accept their narrative. Remember.........apparently after two years of episodes of liberal violence, everyone on the right has agreed to be violent two weeks before an election. It is a nut or a political plan............one or the other. .
Bray Wyatt Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Just got an update on my phone, said package sent to CNN had some kind of a white powder to it
IDBillzFan Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:05 PM, GG said: Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? Expand 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:02 PM, RochesterRob said: Easier said than done in your scenario to Soros. A bomber would have to know how to get a package labeled to get it from Soros' assistant to Soros himself. What are the odds of a bomber guessing correctly on that? Doubtful that the Soros assistant would be in on that as that person now goes under the microscope of scrutiny. Again, I would point out that the security likely found at these places would not allow a stranger to walk up to a mail box or gate. Expand For clarity - I was just riffing... and continue to do only that. But in my scenario Soros would be in on it. That's how it could be hand delivered yet they don't have an arrest or suspect. That's wild speculation based on a limited fact pattern, not meant to be conclusive. On 10/24/2018 at 5:07 PM, Bray Wyatt said: Just got an update on my phone, said package sent to CNN had some kind of a white powder to it Expand They confirmed it at the press conference.
IDBillzFan Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:08 PM, Deranged Rhino said: For clarity - I was just riffing... and continue to do only that. But in my scenario Soros would be in on it. That's how it could be hand delivered yet they don't have an arrest or suspect. That's wild speculation based on a limited fact pattern, not meant to be conclusive. They confirmed it at the press conference. Expand Must be killing CNN to report on something other than "Orange Man Bad."
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:05 PM, GG said: Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? Expand Like I said earlier: the logistics are interesting, and a prime initial focus of the investigation. But they're QUESTIONS, not answers. And you're missing some other very obvious indicators. Like: delivered not just on the same day, but at roughly the same local time. And why doesn't the picture of the manila envelope shown previously in this thread appear to have the stamps cancelled?
Warren Zevon Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:02 PM, peace out said: (Early) Reports from NBC are the package(s) (not sure what one or ones) found today contain working explosives. Expand NYPD Confirms
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:08 PM, LABillzFan said: Expand I categorically deny being involved. 1
GG Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:09 PM, DC Tom said: Like I said earlier: the logistics are interesting, and a prime initial focus of the investigation. But they're QUESTIONS, not answers. And you're missing some other very obvious indicators. Like: delivered not just on the same day, but at roughly the same local time. And why doesn't the picture of the manila envelope shown previously in this thread appear to have the stamps cancelled? Expand Dexter, note that my post was phrased as a question.
RochesterRob Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:09 PM, LABillzFan said: Must be killing CNN to report on something other than "Orange Man Bad." Expand They will use the opportunity to say that the bomber(s) was inspired by the "Orange Man" which works for them just as well.
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:12 PM, GG said: Dexter, note that my post was phrased as a question. Expand http://changingminds.org/techniques/questioning/leading_questions.htm
Deranged Rhino Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:13 PM, RochesterRob said: They will use the opportunity to say that the bomber(s) was inspired by the "Orange Man" which works for them just as well. Expand Clinton flunkies are already out in force making that case on twitter. See the king pud himself:
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 5:14 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Clinton flunkies are already out in force making that case on twitter. See the king pud himself: Expand I will never in my life vote Democrat again. 2 1
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