RochesterRob Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Put into context what Peace pointed out earlier. The first bomb, which was real and contained explosive material from the reports, was hand delivered to Soros. Who could do that? There are cameras all over the property, the only person who could get close enough to hand deliver it - without drawing suspicion - would be someone who was supposed to work there. So you hand deliver the first one, the real one, knowing it won't go off. Then you send duds/fake ones through the mail (because you can't risk them going off before they're delivered) to hit all at the same time, but ultimately aren't "real" or capable of going off. That's riffing off the top of my head. Easier said than done in your scenario to Soros. A bomber would have to know how to get a package labeled to get it from Soros' assistant to Soros himself. What are the odds of a bomber guessing correctly on that? Doubtful that the Soros assistant would be in on that as that person now goes under the microscope of scrutiny. Again, I would point out that the security likely found at these places would not allow a stranger to walk up to a mail box or gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Looks like the point where everyone just starts getting paranoid about random garbage now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 If you align all of the addresses of each and trace the lines they make a perfect "Q". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Not enough data; I could invent multiple patterns to fit this. Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, peace out said: (Early) Reports from NBC are the package(s) (not sure what one or ones) found today contain working explosives. Maybe I have been watching too much television but it seems unlikely a lab report would have been put together so quickly never mind released to a lone news outlet as opposed to having a general press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Except for that not one bomb has worked. If this was a group effort and they were serious about doing harm then they put the wrong person in charge of making the bombs. These bombs were never intended to work. Why? Presumption that because they didn't work, they weren't intended to work. There's no basis for establishing intent from failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, GG said: Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? To be fair, they could have been sitting around some mailroom and once the alarm went out people started looking (shrugs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Possibilities: 1. Conservative jerk who embraces violence 2. Apolitical nut 3. Leftist trying to impugn conservatives and help Dems change the subject away from caravans and leftist violence. The elite will tell you we can't even whisper about #2 or 3. Conservatives are and remain unequivocally and totally against this bombing garbage whether it is a leftist, a nut or a conservative who decided to abandon our values and commit a crime. Jail him. Don't let leftists lie about you when you refuse to accept their narrative. Remember.........apparently after two years of episodes of liberal violence, everyone on the right has agreed to be violent two weeks before an election. It is a nut or a political plan............one or the other. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just got an update on my phone, said package sent to CNN had some kind of a white powder to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, GG said: Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Easier said than done in your scenario to Soros. A bomber would have to know how to get a package labeled to get it from Soros' assistant to Soros himself. What are the odds of a bomber guessing correctly on that? Doubtful that the Soros assistant would be in on that as that person now goes under the microscope of scrutiny. Again, I would point out that the security likely found at these places would not allow a stranger to walk up to a mail box or gate. For clarity - I was just riffing... and continue to do only that. But in my scenario Soros would be in on it. That's how it could be hand delivered yet they don't have an arrest or suspect. That's wild speculation based on a limited fact pattern, not meant to be conclusive. 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: Just got an update on my phone, said package sent to CNN had some kind of a white powder to it They confirmed it at the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: For clarity - I was just riffing... and continue to do only that. But in my scenario Soros would be in on it. That's how it could be hand delivered yet they don't have an arrest or suspect. That's wild speculation based on a limited fact pattern, not meant to be conclusive. They confirmed it at the press conference. Must be killing CNN to report on something other than "Orange Man Bad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Enough questions about this - How did all the packages with the right addresses AND the package that was returned because of a wrong address all show up on the same day? Like I said earlier: the logistics are interesting, and a prime initial focus of the investigation. But they're QUESTIONS, not answers. And you're missing some other very obvious indicators. Like: delivered not just on the same day, but at roughly the same local time. And why doesn't the picture of the manila envelope shown previously in this thread appear to have the stamps cancelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, peace out said: (Early) Reports from NBC are the package(s) (not sure what one or ones) found today contain working explosives. NYPD Confirms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, LABillzFan said: I categorically deny being involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Like I said earlier: the logistics are interesting, and a prime initial focus of the investigation. But they're QUESTIONS, not answers. And you're missing some other very obvious indicators. Like: delivered not just on the same day, but at roughly the same local time. And why doesn't the picture of the manila envelope shown previously in this thread appear to have the stamps cancelled? Dexter, note that my post was phrased as a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Must be killing CNN to report on something other than "Orange Man Bad." They will use the opportunity to say that the bomber(s) was inspired by the "Orange Man" which works for them just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, GG said: Dexter, note that my post was phrased as a question. http://changingminds.org/techniques/questioning/leading_questions.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, RochesterRob said: They will use the opportunity to say that the bomber(s) was inspired by the "Orange Man" which works for them just as well. Clinton flunkies are already out in force making that case on twitter. See the king pud himself: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Clinton flunkies are already out in force making that case on twitter. See the king pud himself: I will never in my life vote Democrat again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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