Bombs in Mail to Democrat Leaders?

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Thurmal34 said:

You guys are right, words from people in leadership positions don’t matter!

Of course they matter but "I'd like to punch that guy in the face" to "I'll pay your legal bills" is a a far cry from saying send pipe bombs to my political critics.

 

5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Did you get a good view of those stickers? They didn't look like the typical half-ass sticker job. Looked too neat and all too new. Sort of like the "impromptu protest" signs that were prepared in advance.

Come on man.  Sometimes a spade is a spade.

Edited October 27, 2018 by Doc Brown

[3rdnlng]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Of course they matter but "I'd like to punch that guy in the face" to "I'll pay your legal bills" is a a far cry from saying send pipe bombs to my political critics.

 

Come on man.  Sometimes a spade is a spade.

And sometimes it's not.

[The Poojer]

Adding to the conspiracy theories.  Don't discount the fact that early reports brought up a past steroid problem for this suspect. Steroids are thought to cause long lasting heart problems.  I highly doubt this suspect is long for this world.  Just my conspiratorial $0.02

[Buffalo_Gal]

This is weird:
 

 

[Foxx]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

This is weird:
 

 

#notbombs

#nonexpolsivedevices

[Foxx]

 

[Prickly Pete]

10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Bickering...

 

Conspiracy theories...

 

call it whatever you want.

 

The moment it happened, the false flag theory blew up; in public via social media and almost immediately on this message board.

 

And much of that was coming even here via Twitter. 

 

Twitter is great for information. It's also great for misinformation.

 

Here's an excerpt from the AP that seems to fit what I've seen here in this thread:

 

Sayoc’s social media profiles portray a deeply disaffected conservative who trafficked in online conspiracy theories, parody accounts and name-calling. He called a Florida school shooting survivor a “fake phony,” peddled theories about George Soros, the billionaire political donor targeted this week by a package bomb 

 

No one here is sending bombs (I assume), but it seems clear that the "value" of this message board might be in much of the really interesting "inside info," but the problem is it's counterbalanced by those who post the nutty conspiracy theories... like the false flag thing with this incident, which it seems clear people were pushing in here ("those stickers are way too new! Must have been planted!!") even after most of the facts came out.

 

Sure, there's value here for those who have the time, not just to post but to cross reference and verify ideas and info as it's posted, but considering some of the utter crap that's out there in Social Media, that's a lot of time. I just have higher priorities. Forgive me.

 

Point is, you haven't left.

[DC Tom]

10 hours ago, Thurmal34 said:

You guys are right, words from people in leadership positions don’t matter!

 

 

 

The Emancipation Proclamation was a pretty speech, but the Civil War and the 14th Amendment freed slaves.  "We shall never surrender" was a fine oration, but five years' more fighting won the war.  "Peace in our time" wasn't.  "We choose to go to the moon" didn't put men on the moon.  

 

The Great Man Theory is nonsense.  Politicians make words.  Social and cultural forces make history. 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

The Emancipation Proclamation was a pretty speech, but the Civil War and the 14th Amendment freed slaves.  "We shall never surrender" was a fine oration, but five years' more fighting won the war.  "Peace in our time" wasn't.  "We choose to go to the moon" didn't put men on the moon.  

 

The Great Man Theory is nonsense.  Politicians make words.  Social and cultural forces make history. 

 

But when your ideology depends on controlling language and banning words, it makes sense a leftist would reach for that tired and false narrative. 

[IDBillzFan]

17 hours ago, Rob's House said:

 

 

Mostly funny for its accuracy.

[BringBackOrton]

22 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yeah, Sessions said it's too early to know motive, he's not out there spreading this false flag theory:

 

"I don't know. Other than what you might normally expect. He may have been -- he appears to be partisan but that will be determined by the facts as the case goes forward."

 

I see that even here in this thread since news has come out, the crazy conspiracy theory--which was never very likely to begin with and is becoming less and less likely to begin with--is now diverting itself back to a discussion of how we can't blame an entire party for the actions of a single crazy person, which I entirely agree with.

 

But I'm going to go back to the original point I was chastised for: Trump is the President of the United States of America.   Despite the suddenly shifted narrative as of him being elected, that is a position where his presentation, demeanor and words matter.  

 

"You can be President one day!!!"

 

That's the ultimate goal you throw out there as the highest aspiration for any child.  That makes the President a position of power not just in terms of our actions around the world, but as a role model for others.

 

Plenty of Democrats AND Republicans have put out completely inappropriate and sometimes violent statements and images having to do with the other party in the past, but once those guys have taken office, they've taken on that responsibility of being not just the leaders of our country, but also  as the ultimate role models... AKA: "I, the President of the USA am a representation of how our youth should speak and act."

 

45 has been a piss poor President in that respect, and it is having a negative impact on our Country now and could very well sew even more division in upcoming generations as they come of age.

Haha so the job is what 6 year olds believe it is?

 

The President job's description is not "role-model."  It never was.

 

Anyone who is an adult and thinks the job isn't clearly the worst job on the planet to have is an idiot.  Oh, I get to make life or death calls, get to have my family destroyed every day on the media, and I get to age 30 years in less than a decade?  My kids won't want to be President, because there are way better, less corrupt, less horrific jobs out there.