Warren Zevon Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:43 PM, Bray Wyatt said: Elizabeth warren native or actual native?? Expand EW On 10/26/2018 at 7:43 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Come on, we're making progress in terms of being able to have a conversation, aren't we? This isn't a new point of view for me, as you know. Elements of the media have been complicit in the attempt to undermine Trump since Day One of his administration (if not before) - some because of basic partisanship, others because they're covering their own involvement in the pushing of and creation of the dossier. Do you really deny elements of the mainstream media have been pushing this on Trump, without evidence, since the beginning? Look at the CNN chyrons for example: Expand Fair. My point is when all biases are removed from our political points of view, the evidence we see at this point for motive is a dangerous individual with a record who could have been politically motivated regardless what kooks at CNN, Fox, etc. say. His motivations should be able to be debated and discussed without our respective sides shouting whataboutisms. 1
IDBillzFan Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:10 PM, peace out said: He lied about being an American Indian. Will Trump give this scumbag a racist nickname? Expand Ahhh, the voices of the left. Always focused like a laser on the topics at hand. So much losing that being threatened with bombs seems like a win because the guy was a Trump supporter. On 10/26/2018 at 7:10 PM, Doc Brown said: A lone nut with mental problems is what I predicted as the simplest explanation is usually the right one. Expand Too bad he's not black, because nothing says mental problems to the left like a black Trump supporter.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:18 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: If the leadership of this nation devoted 1/10th of the urgency they showed in this investigation to the challenges of a broken immigration system, a whole lot less people be victimzed in and on the way into this country. Expand Seriously! Don't they know that some immigrants might act like this terrorist guy! Where did this guy get his motivation to commit terrorism? On 10/26/2018 at 7:36 PM, OJ Tom said: He's Native American. I'm pretty sure the stereotype Deplorable is white. Expand Did he really go to Trump rallies?? Oh man, that's bad!
Deranged Rhino Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:48 PM, peace out said: Fair. My point is when all biases are removed from our political points of view, the evidence we see at this point for motive is a dangerous individual with a record who could have been politically motivated regardless what kooks at CNN, Fox, etc. say. His motivations should be able to be debated and discussed without our respective sides shouting whataboutisms. Expand I don't disagree with the bolded at all. Could being the key word though. It's likely, if not probable, but we still don't know for sure yet and ramming that narrative down our throats is seen by many as pushing "Trump bad" narrative above the facts. If you go back and watch the news conference, nearly every question was about that. Some back to back, trying to get a soundbyte from Wray or Sessions they could use to keep that narrative alive. One question, two questions - totally acceptable. It would be irresponsible NOT to ask one question about it. I agree there completely. But this was nearly every single question. That's not journalism. It's activism.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Oh, this was 100% politically motivated
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:20 PM, Paulus said: Seriously, how does someone like this begon to think? Like, this crap is pure stupid and will only help the other side with how insanely stupid it was. He should be fired. Expand mentally disturbed You are not going to find anyone telling you this is a perfectly sane person. Rational people do not believe a "bomb scare" is a good idea, regardless of your political affiliation.
keepthefaith Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) On 10/26/2018 at 7:56 PM, Tiberius said: Where did this guy get his motivation to commit terrorism? Expand That's pretty obvious from whom he targeted. Each of the people he targeted have acted in ways or have made numerous public statements that offend millions of Americans. Most of those millions of Americans while being pissed at these people won't go to the extremes that this nutbag did. Each of those targeted though need only look in the mirror if they want to know where the motivation came from. It's not what he's for that motivated him. It's what he's against. Edited October 26, 2018 by keepthefaith 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:48 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: a "stripper with a steroid problem" http://nypost.com/2018/10/26/suspected-mail-bomber-was-a-stripper-with-a-steroid-problem/ Expand Ah, the New York Post. The headlines tomorrow should be one for the ages. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:10 PM, keepthefaith said: That's pretty obvious from who he targeted. Each of the people he targeted have acted in ways or have made numerous public statements that offend millions of Americans. Most of those millions of American while being pissed at these people won't go to the extremes that this nutbag did. Each of those targeted though need only look in the mirror if they want to know where the motivation came from. It's not what he's for that motivated him. It's what he's against. Expand Oh come on, that's like saying the 9-11 terrorists were just acting against western imperialism. Trump deserves a lot of blame here. Every rational adult knows there are kooks like this out there, and Trump shouldn't be pushing people's buttons like this. He's over the top and this shows it. On 10/26/2018 at 8:11 PM, Buffalo_Gal said: Ah, the New York Post. The headlines tomorrow should be one for the ages. Expand Professional wrestler!! I called that one a few days ago! Trump's supporters remind me of pro wrestling fans, the ones that say it's all real!
IDBillzFan Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) On 10/26/2018 at 8:03 PM, Deranged Rhino said: I don't disagree with the bolded at all. Could being the key word though. It's likely, if not probable, but we still don't know for sure yet and ramming that narrative down our throats is seen by many as pushing "Trump bad" narrative above the facts. If you go back and watch the news conference, nearly every question was about that. Some back to back, trying to get a soundbyte from Wray or Sessions they could use to keep that narrative alive. One question, two questions - totally acceptable. It would be irresponsible NOT to ask one question about it. I agree there completely. But this was nearly every single question. That's not journalism. It's activism. Expand You'll ultimately realize you're pissing in the wind here. The left is in shambles right now. They were bad BEFORE, but now there is actually a chance -- small as it may be -- that they may not even be able to get the House back. The socialists have taken over their party, and their bench set itself on fire since Kavanaugh and the only Hail Mary they have is that some lone nutbag would send fake bombs to the people who have been setting the party on fire in hopes of saying to the world "You see! We TOLD you ORANGE MAN BAD! You must believe us now!" That is why you never saw people like Peace posting here until something was happening that was perceived as favorable for the left. The left needs Orange Man Bad to be justified so the socialists can maybe win the House. That's it. Edited October 26, 2018 by LABillzFan
HeHateMe Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 False flag am i right?! Which way does the conspiracy theorist turn now i want a good laugh.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:19 PM, LABillzFan said: You'll ultimately realize you're pissing in the wind here. The left is in shambles right now. They were bad BEFORE, but now there is actually a chance -- small as it may be -- that they may not even be able to get the House back. The socialists have taken over their party, and their bench set itself on fire since Kavanaugh and the only Hail Mary they have is that some lone nutbag would send fake bombs to the people who have been setting the party on fire in hopes of saying to the world "You see! We TOLD you ORANGE MAN BAD! You must believe us now!" That is why you never saw people like Peace posting here until something was happening that was perceived as favorable for the left. The left needs Orange Man Bad to be justified so the socialists can maybe win the House. That's it. Expand I hear you, and don't think you're wrong. I'm an optimist though, and believe despite having different opinions I can do a better job conversing with Peace and am making an honest effort to do so. He has been as well with me and it's appreciated.
boyst Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:24 PM, HeHateMe said: False flag am i right?! Which way does the conspiracy theorist turn now i want a good laugh. Expand It looked like a false flag t first. Now it just looks like a meaningless event, similarly to scalise shooting and Trump jr.s wife being attacked
Teddy KGB Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:24 PM, HeHateMe said: False flag am i right?! Which way does the conspiracy theorist turn now i want a good laugh. Expand Whats the death toll upto ? 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:24 PM, HeHateMe said: False flag am i right?! Which way does the conspiracy theorist turn now i want a good laugh. Expand Well if Hillary and CNN and rest would just shut up people wouldn't get so upset
HeHateMe Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:26 PM, Teddy KGB said: Whats the death toll upto ? Expand So it's back on then? Ok let me get my tin foil hat.
IDBillzFan Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:25 PM, Deranged Rhino said: I hear you, and don't think you're wrong. I'm an optimist though, and believe despite having different opinions I can do a better job conversing with Peace and am making an honest effort to do so. He has been as well with me and it's appreciated. Expand He's the Christine Blasey Ford of PPP posters. Shows up when he thinks there is damage to be done...tosses himself to the curb when he finds out he was wrong. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:24 PM, HeHateMe said: False flag am i right?! Which way does the conspiracy theorist turn now i want a good laugh. Expand 2
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