Bill_with_it Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Star was brought to Buffalo to prevent that kind of gashing in the run game. It was shockingly bad. I find myself questioning if you watched that game. The big back breaking runs were given up do to loss of containment from our lbs/safeties (big nickle). Not a 300lber that plays smack dab in the midflebof the dline. 2
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, entropyrules said: and he went to a great college that most of you can only dream about getting in I'm not really following the purpose behind your statement....? Is it sarcasm to the college he attended? Hard to believe but eh, to each his own Is it insinuating many folks on this message board don't have the mental acumen to stay in an intelligent conversation with him? Possibly... Are you simply trying to run amok an otherwise positive conversation about a former NE coach because you live in NE? Also, an equal possibility... Regardless, please elucidate the context of your statement otherwise, why come onto this board? Just take your ball and go home. Edited October 24, 2018 by BigBuff423
thebandit27 Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I'm not really following the purpose behind your statement....? Is it sarcasm to the college he attended? Hard to believe but eh, to each his own Is it insinuating many folks on this message board don't have the mental acumen to stay in an intelligent conversation with him? Possibly... Are you simply trying to run amok an otherwise positive conversation about a former NE coach because you live in NE? Also, an equal possibility... Regardless, please elucidate the context of your statement otherwise, why come onto this board? Just take your ball and go home. I'm just guessing that the poster is intimating that he/she and Patricia share an alma mater 1
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: I find myself questioning if you watched that game. The big back breaking runs were given up do to loss of containment from our lbs/safeties (big nickle). Not a 300lber that plays smack dab in the midflebof the dline. That's what I saw too, Star taking double teams, but a FB or guard getting to our LBs and walling one of them off, while the other one missed his gap assignment. Neither Edmunds or Milano are good at shedding blocks.
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Posted October 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I'm just guessing that the poster is intimating that he/she and Patricia share an alma mater That's cool....a point completely flying over my head...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: That's what I saw too, Star taking double teams, but a FB or guard getting to our LBs and walling one of them off, while the other one missed his gap assignment. Neither Edmunds or Milano are good at shedding blocks. Exhibit A Star dominated by the Center on this play. 1
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Exhibit A Star dominated by the Center on this play. If you look though, Star was lined up on the center's right side already, all he had to do was get Star moving right and keep him from getting the RB in the backfield, the LB did not do anything to redirect, he got completely washed out by the guard at the 2nd level. the whole defense was flowing exactly the way the colts wanted them to for the play to work, the only player who went against the grain was Phillips and he needed to keep flowing to his left to close the hole up and redirect the RB. Even if he did, there was nobody home the LBs had already been pushed out of the play
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: If you look though, Star was lined up on the center's right side already, all he had to do was get Star moving right and keep him from getting the RB in the backfield, the LB did not do anything to redirect, he got completely washed out by the guard at the 2nd level. the whole defense was flowing exactly the way the colts wanted them to for the play to work, the only player who went against the grain was Phillips and he needed to keep flowing to his left to close the hole up and redirect the RB. Even if he did, there was nobody home the LBs had already been pushed out of the play That's not the only example. Regardless of any other player's responsibility Star was eliminated by a single block on this play that refutes the "eating double teams" talk. It's not the only time it happened.
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's not the only example. Regardless of any other player's responsibility Star was eliminated by a single block on this play that refutes the "eating double teams" talk. It's not the only time it happened. I can't go back and cherry pick examples of him taking on double teams, don't have the time, there were 10 other guys out there as well. But I don't want to overly defend him either to be honest. I think that 50 million could have been spent on two competent olinemen instead and we would be better off as a team than with one nose tackle.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: I can't go back and cherry pick examples of him taking on double teams, don't have the time, there were 10 other guys out there as well. But I don't want to overly defend him either to be honest. I think that 50 million could have been spent on two competent olinemen instead and we would be better off as a team than with one nose tackle. Bad day at the office for the entire defense in both the run and passing game. They were dominated.
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Bad day at the office for the entire defense in both the run and passing game. They were dominated. No doubt, and it doesn't look better this Monday night, or for the rest of the season for that matter. I want Allen to get his mental reps in and then get back out there and get physical reps too. But I do question the quality of the reps with a sketchy Oline and wrs who can get separation. What is he seeing when he drops back? A pass rush in his face and no open wrs. So he bails out of the pocket and runs. That's not going to help him develop as a passer at all.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: No doubt, and it doesn't look better this Monday night, or for the rest of the season for that matter. I want Allen to get his mental reps in and then get back out there and get physical reps too. But I do question the quality of the reps with a sketchy Oline and wrs who can get separation. What is he seeing when he drops back? A pass rush in his face and no open wrs. So he bails out of the pocket and runs. That's not going to help him develop as a passer at all. The OL had been decent the last few weeks. Hopefully when he comes back the game will have slowed down for him such that we see additional growth in his development path. Obviously, it's the most important thing that needs to happen this season. Edited October 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: The OL had been decent the last few weeks. Hopefully when he comes back the game will have slowed down for him such that we see additional growth from him. Obviously, it's the most important thing that needs to happen this season. Agreed.
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 This feels a lot like the marcel situation
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This feels a lot like the marcel situation I don't think Star is ever late to meetings or misses the bus though.
Mark Vader Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bad day at the office for the entire defense in both the run and passing game. They were dominated. I'll take it as the Bills defense just had "one of those days". They'll be back.
Coach Tuesday Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 The Giants are an example of how bad decision-making can cascade through the league and cause consequences to other teams. The Maras stuck Shurmur and Gettleman with Manning for 2018, which was a bad directive. Gettleman passed up on the chance to trade down, acquire picks, and still likely draft a QB of the future - so he could take a running back. Horrible decision when you factor in the opportunity cost. Meanwhile Gettleman’s stubborn idiocy probably cost the Bills the chance to draft Darnold, the consequences of which remain to be seen. And now, the Giants are shedding talent to acquire extra picks to guarantee themselves a top QB prospect in 2019, which they should’ve dealt with in 2018. When you factor in the amount of picks that Gettleman passed up on acquiring, along with the picks he may have to spend to trade up, it’s astounding - deferring the QB decision will cost the Giants like 5-6 draft picks and some quality players. And those are just the consequences to the Giants - as I said above, their stupidity affected other teams such as ours... 1
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'll take it as the Bills defense just had "one of those days". They'll be back. They have to be or we'll be looking at a lot of ugly games for the rest of this season.
LSHMEAB Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'll take it as the Bills defense just had "one of those days". They'll be back. They have far too many of "those days." Very inconsistent unit. Edmunds had a terrible day and Star was not occupying blockers like I'd expect from a 10m/yr space eater. Just bad all around. Our linebackers are going to have to play a lot better if we're going to cover on Monday. I think losing by <14 is how we need to measure success in this game. Edited October 24, 2018 by LSHMEAB
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