Kirby Jackson Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, DuckyBoys said: Realistically we probably have one more win with Tyrod and probably the same if Allen finishes the Texan game. But we'd have a big cap hit mediocre qb on the payroll They did the right thing just did it half hearted Well said
ColoradoBills Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Behind this O-line with Daboll's play calling I agree with you 100%. I could see the thread if TT was the starter for the Browns balling out. It took their coaching staff 3 games to figure it out compared to our 3 years which is what hurts the most. This week is tough for all Bills fans or should I say all real Bills fans. It pretty much seals a losing season which is what most of us thought it was going to be. Having reality come and bite us like it did today has everyone pissed. I am too. Monday has the makings of another national embarrassment. But they still got to play the game. This board is going to get pretty brutal in the next couple of weeks.............to say the least. The "should of, could of, would of" along with "fire/cut/trade ___________" threads will be too much for me. LOL It's a beautiful sunny Colorado afternoon, I'm going for a walk. 1
Bfanlc Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: No. Their abject mismanagement of the offense and specifically the QB position is borderline negligence (hyperbole on my part) & warrants dismissal (not hyperbole). The fact that they have an unplayable option as the #2 QB still on the roster warrants dismissal. This is all about trends -- and nothing on this team's offense is trending in the right direction. These guys haven't done one thing in the last year & a half to demonstrate that they have any grasp whatsoever about how to build/develop an offense in the modern NFL. When it comes time to interview candidates, any coach or GM who comes in and mentions "ball control" or "field position" should be immediately escorted from the premises by security. I don't necessarily disagree with you. They've made some serious almost fireable mistakes. I give them this year and next. If I don't see something that can be deemed progressive/pulling this team together then I'd fire them. Right now they have totally clustered this team up. The sole reason this team is a mess is because of them. 1
Real McClappy Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: This week is tough for all Bills fans or should I say all real Bills fans. It pretty much seals a losing season which is what most of us thought it was going to be. Having reality come and bite us like it did today has everyone pissed. I am too. Monday has the makings of another national embarrassment. But they still got to play the game. This board is going to get pretty brutal in the next couple of weeks.............to say the least. The "should of, could of, would of" along with "fire/cut/trade ___________" threads will be too much for me. LOL It's a beautiful sunny Colorado afternoon, I'm going for a walk. Next week is going to be brutal around here after the Pats game.
iinii Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, John in Jax said: How in Holy H*ll did the Bills beat the Vikings...and in MN too!? LOL I guess I'll fall back to "On any given Sunday....." Get Pacino to fight for that inch
ngbills Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Yes, the revolving door of coaches is surely the best way to have sustained success. Jesus. So keep them so you can have sustained failure 1
DCOrange Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It can always be worse and it is by a lot! That's not true. Certainly it can't be any worse than it is right now! Surely this is the bottom, right?
PIZ Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m fine with rebuilding but who are the players on offense that are a part of the future? Allen and Dawkins are. Maybe Zay is a 3rd receiver. That’s my issue. If they were a collection of young, talented guys I’d be fine. They aren’t. You don’t rebuild needing as many guys as the Bills need on offense. They have left little margin for error on FA and the draft. The Bills need to be right about virtually all of their additions. That makes me think they want young guys and vets OR this rebuild is still a few years away, like 2020.
DCOrange Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Even as somewhat of a Tyrod supporter, I'd still make the trade that they did. The first pick in the 3rd round for Tyrod was a great deal. Having said that, as I said throughout the offseason, it was clearly going to be a step back at the QB position this year. It was pretty much guaranteed that Peterman would be a downgrade from Tyrod; and both Allen and McCarron were almost certainly going to be worse.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Yes, the revolving door of coaches is surely the best way to have sustained success. Jesus. Probably the same people posting in the other thread questioning why coaches bring in new players to fit their scheme too and not understanding why!
nedboy7 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Did you see McD's stupid face the whole game? I swear he was about to cry. I wish he had. Him and Beane can beat it. 1 1
Teddy KGB Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: ...yet he would be a MASSIVE upgrade on our team. He was never the problem; he just wasn’t the solution. Anyone that thought otherwise has been humbled (and corrected) this season. Wrong, Don’t let one Derek Anderson game cloud your judgement. Taylor is still hot garbage
gobills1212 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Finally!! After 272 days laying awake at night wondering will he or wont he, i can FINALLY go to sleep knowing it was FINALLY owned up to!!
nedboy7 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Even as somewhat of a Tyrod supporter, I'd still make the trade that they did. The first pick in the 3rd round for Tyrod was a great deal. Having said that, as I said throughout the offseason, it was clearly going to be a step back at the QB position this year. It was pretty much guaranteed that Peterman would be a downgrade from Tyrod; and both Allen and McCarron were almost certainly going to be worse. DOWNGRADE? You are now getting a sense of what a non NFL QB really looks like. It aint TT. I just know he was the QB of a 9-7 team that went to the playoffs. How's this crap panning out. 29 minutes ago, ngbills said: So keep them so you can have sustained failure It's surreal people still defend them and their dumb move to move a QB that was average for these clowns. I cant wait for them to get fired.
keepthefaith Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 The Bills are in full-blown rebuilding mode. This is what that looks like. Tyrod wouldn't have a winning record with this team this year. The Bills were very fortunate last year to win 9 games, over achieved. The roster will look very different 1 and 2 years from now.
Teddy KGB Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan11 said: I never understood the “anyone but tyrod” argument . Sure tyrod wasn’t good enough and you need to upgrade. But you can get A LOT worse than tyrod and we are seeing it first hand this year The guy was benched after 3 games. What are you people on ? 1
nedboy7 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said: Realistically we probably have one more win with Tyrod and probably the same if Allen finishes the Texan game. But we'd have a big cap hit mediocre qb on the payroll They did the right thing just did it half hearted Realistically you have no clue what would have happened with TT at QB.
twoandfourteen Posted October 21, 2018 Author Posted October 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Even as somewhat of a Tyrod supporter, I'd still make the trade that they did. The first pick in the 3rd round for Tyrod was a great deal. Having said that, as I said throughout the offseason, it was clearly going to be a step back at the QB position this year. It was pretty much guaranteed that Peterman would be a downgrade from Tyrod; and both Allen and McCarron were almost certainly going to be worse. Right -- which is why Beane & McD should probably have one foot out the door right now. You can't mangle the QB position as badly as these two have & stay employed as a head coach & GM. Nothing else matters until you get that position stabilized. Let them go and try again until someone figures out how to get a productive starter under center.
nedboy7 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: The guy was benched after 3 games. What are you people on ? 9-7. Playoffs. Or was that someone else? 2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: The Bills are in full-blown rebuilding mode. This is what that looks like. Tyrod wouldn't have a winning record with this team this year. The Bills were very fortunate last year to win 9 games, over achieved. The roster will look very different 1 and 2 years from now. Rebuild. LOL. More like no QB. 1
The Red King Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: 9-7. Playoffs. Or was that someone else? Hate to break it to you, but if you think Tyrod was single-handedly responsible for them making the playoffs, you're delusional. The Bills made it in spite of Tyrod, not because of. I offer the JAX playoff game as evidence. Also, Tyrod was out the Indy game and played the JAX game, so the Bills' record with him was 8-8. Baseline, just like him. 2
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