NewEra Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: This is horse crap. Allen has been good? The all 22 shows he’s been a complete fail. He makes the wrong read or scrambles the majority of the time 1
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 What should they do? Continue to win games.
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Rebel101 said: Lol so you think a raw quarterback who can’t read a defense pre or post snap. Doesn’t know which route is best against what coverage. Has accuracy issues and can’t beat a blitz is better then a QB who can do all those things in his sleep Who says he can do all those things? He's a career backup.
Rebel101 Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: He's a career backup. He doesn't know what teams will plan for him as the starter. Lol he’s been a starter. And he will actually know what’s going on with the defense acrossed from him. No one goes into the game knowing what the defenses game plan is. They adapt and adjust. Read the defense in front of them and take what is given. Something Allen has yet to learn how to do
Nick the Greek Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 I see Anderson going 0-3 or 1-2. It won’t be pretty. Don’t get your hopes up people.
Bobby Hooks Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Theres nothing logical about expecting Derek Anderson to lead this team to wins. Oh... you’re “expecting” to win? That’s your first problem. This year isn’t about winning to a logical person.
Rebel101 Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: Who says he can do all those things? He's a career backup. Dude he still knows how to read a defense. Why do you think he was brought in to mentor Allen? Why do you think he was brought in to teach Cam Newton? Because he can help them learn to read a field. He can teach they what route to go to when a certain defense is present. He can show they what routes are best when a team is blitzing from a certain area. This is basic football knowledge it does not require physical skill.
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Allen has been good? The all 22 shows he’s been a complete fail. He makes the wrong read or scrambles the majority of the time And this also is complete crap
Wayne Arnold Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Lol so you think a raw quarterback who can’t read a defense pre or post snap. Doesn’t know which route is best against what coverage. Has accuracy issues and can’t beat a blitz is better then a QB who can do all those things in his sleep Yes.
Royale with Cheese Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Theres nothing logical about expecting Derek Anderson to lead this team to wins. It's kinda hard to think that the offense won't get at least a little better. Derek Anderson isn't a savior by any means but we're historically bad right now. I think we have 3 TD passes all year? Right now it's hard for Allen to break 100 yards passing in legit time. 1
Wayne Arnold Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: Allen has been good? The all 22 shows he’s been a complete fail. He makes the wrong read or scrambles the majority of the time No, of course he hasn’t been good. But he also hasn’t been a “complete failure” and completely inferior to a random bum they just signed off the couch a week ago.
Big Turk Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Worst thing that could possibly happen. A journeyman QB that is not the answer and does NOTHING for our future successes pushes our draft pick further down and then likely with this regime causes them to trade up to get a guy they want, wasting picks they really need instead of just being able to stand pat and get the guy they want or even trade down and pick up more picks. This SHOULD be every Bills fan worst nightmare and unfortunately one that has a decent chance of coming to fruition especially with the way the defense is playing. Edited October 19, 2018 by matter2003
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 50 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: This the statement. What do you think the Buffalo Bills should do. But also what do you think the Buffalo Bills will do. I think with our defense and a veteran QB the team has a chance to succeed. I believe Anderson will capitalize off turnovers and win us a few games. It is a tough spot though because you have already started developing Josh Allen. I believe the Bills FO has to put his development as the top priority. So should he sit and learn and how how a QB can succeed in this league? Or should they put him back out there and let him take his lumps? I believe Anderson should play as long as he can if he is winning. But I also believe the Bills will put Allen back in no matter what the outcome is of Anderson’s run as a starter. It also depends on how he is winning. Sure, it is unlikely, but if you are telling me they are winning and over a few games he is averaging 15-24, for 225 yards and a 1.5 TDs per game maybe you consider keeping him in. The moment he slides you pull the leash.
NewEra Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: And this also is complete crap I guess we are somehow looking at different all 22s. He CONSTANTLY leaves the pocket early when there’s still time to hang in there and allow the receivers to get open. Instead of keeping his eyes up, he drops them and scrambles and misses his window to hit them. He diagnoses the hot route and the throws to the flat extremely late, he throws lots of balls into the dirt and drills easy slants as hard as he can. The WRs hasn’t done him any favors and our OL is bad, but his play has been worse than both of those units.. if you disagree, we can agree to disagree. I don’t have time to debate such hot garbage. He’s has been a failure so far. Just as many thought he would be. He’s a good kid and I think he can and WILL get better.....but right now......he sucks.
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, NewEra said: I guess we are somehow looking at different all 22s. He CONSTANTLY leaves the pocket early when there’s still time to hang in there and allow the receivers to get open. Instead of keeping his eyes up, he drops them and scrambles and misses his window to hit them. He diagnoses the hot route and the throws to the flat extremely late, he throws lots of balls into the dirt and drills easy slants as hard as he can. The WRs hasn’t done him any favors and our OL is bad, but his play has been worse than both of those units.. if you disagree, we can agree to disagree. I don’t have time to debate such hot garbage. He’s has been a failure so far. Just as many thought he would be. He’s a good kid and I think he can and WILL get better.....but right now......he sucks. Go back like I did and watch each offensive play against the Texans. You will see he got the ball out quicker, was more accurate than earlier games. No denying it if you actually watch. 1
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Dude he still knows how to read a defense. Why do you think he was brought in to mentor Allen? Why do you think he was brought in to teach Cam Newton? Because he can help them learn to read a field. He can teach they what route to go to when a certain defense is present. He can show they what routes are best when a team is blitzing from a certain area. This is basic football knowledge it does not require physical skill. This is a joke. If he was so good why didn't he beat Cam out?
Bangarang Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Josh Allen has been so bad that Derek Anderson is considered an upgrade. Yikes Edited October 19, 2018 by Bangarang 1
Rebel101 Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: And this also is complete crap Oh so the way Allen has played this year you want him to play for the rest of his career? You will be okay with that then? You know we have a historically bad offense right? We are ranked 32. There are only 32 to teams and the Cardinals are 31st who are better then is by a decent margin. Everything you say sir is complete crap lol
Wayne Arnold Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's kinda hard to think that the offense won't get at least a little better. Derek Anderson isn't a savior by any means but we're historically bad right now. I think we have 3 TD passes all year? Right now it's hard for Allen to break 100 yards passing in legit time. There are many pieces of the “historically bad offense” puzzle. Allen is one piece. Replacing that one piece with Anderson isn’t going to make a difference. I don’t care how “experienced” Anderson is. Allen had four full games. He passed for less than 100 yards in one of them. Somehow that has led to a weirdly common “Right now it's hard for Allen to break 100 yards passing in legit time” perception here. Which in turn has led to a belief that literally anyone else at QB would turn this offense around. It’s pretty absurd.
NewEra Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: No, of course he hasn’t been good. But he also hasn’t been a “complete failure” and completely inferior to a random bum they just signed off the couch a week ago. We average 123 yards passing a game, worst in the league. The next worst team averages 152 a game. How is that not a complete failure? We may have the worst passing attack in nfl history,
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