BruceVilanch Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 This might be a little long winded but here it goes. I work as an executive manager and have been doing it now for 6 years, my first year was filled with lots of ups and downs and I made some stupid mistakes and was learning on the fly for the better part of 6 months. At the 6 month mark we hired another manager from a different agency who was about 15 years older than me and worked in management for the better part of his life. He wasn't the most effective manager and was riding this job out until his retirement and was essentially going through the motions, but he did provide lots of insight to me on how do get through the mundane day to day tasks and how to handle crisis situations because he had seen it before. I was much younger than he was and had more "Potential" and now I am in a higher position than he ever got to but learning from him during my first year was invaluable to my development. Regardless of DA's stats there is something to be said about having a guy who has seen things that JA has not, there is something to be said about having a guy in a room who can teach the nuance of the game that comes from a guy who has been in the league for years. Hopefully this little break will give JA a chance to mentally reset, because this is a lot for a kid to take in. Go Bills! 8
Dadonkadonk Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 If its such a great idea why did it take until week 6 to bring Anderson in. Beane is incompetent fool. Wastes draft piakc and trades away more talent than he acquirers. 2
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said: This might be a little long winded but here it goes. I work as an executive manager and have been doing it now for 6 years, my first year was filled with lots of ups and downs and I made some stupid mistakes and was learning on the fly for the better part of 6 months. At the 6 month mark we hired another manager from a different agency who was about 15 years older than me and worked in management for the better part of his life. He wasn't the most effective manager and was riding this job out until his retirement and was essentially going through the motions, but he did provide lots of insight to me on how do get through the mundane day to day tasks and how to handle crisis situations because he had seen it before. I was much younger than he was and had more "Potential" and now I am in a higher position than he ever got to but learning from him during my first year was invaluable to my development. Regardless of DA's stats there is something to be said about having a guy who has seen things that JA has not, there is something to be said about having a guy in a room who can teach the nuance of the game that comes from a guy who has been in the league for years. Hopefully this little break will give JA a chance to mentally reset, because this is a lot for a kid to take in. Go Bills! Koolaide is a helluva drug
BruceVilanch Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Koolaide is a helluva drug haha, I know the situation right now is not ideal but this is better than him and peterman alone in the QB room, at least the guy has experience.
BigDingus Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Dadonkadonk said: If its such a great idea why did it take until week 6 to bring Anderson in. Beane is incompetent fool. Wastes draft piakc and trades away more talent than he acquirers. He was incompetent in this regard, and having a veteran on the roster is a huge asset to a young QB. Both can be true... 1
fansince88 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, BigDingus said: He was incompetent in this regard, and having a veteran on the roster is a huge asset to a young QB. Both can be true... We all know it has been the better part of 2 weeks since we hired DA but we have to complain that it took two weeks. Please dont insert facts like this. It plays against our right to complain. Jesh! BTW, good post @Jeetz1231. I agree 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: If its such a great idea why did it take until week 6 to bring Anderson in. Beane is incompetent fool. Wastes draft piakc and trades away more talent than he acquirers. ....sounds like McBeaned made the final decision to dump AJ for the "coveted 5th".......McDermott came from two different scenarios regarding rookie QB: (1) start rook now ala Cam or (2) let him sit and learn ala McNabb......get the impression he preferred the "McNabb approach" but was trumped............ Edited October 18, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy
billsredneck1 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 i think this should help josh a lot. he can be on the sideline with the headset on and listen to all the communications. he can watch and listen to how derek manages the game. this may have been a blessing in disguise. hopefully we get a win this week.
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: This might be a little long winded but here it goes. I work as an executive manager and have been doing it now for 6 years, my first year was filled with lots of ups and downs and I made some stupid mistakes and was learning on the fly for the better part of 6 months. At the 6 month mark we hired another manager from a different agency who was about 15 years older than me and worked in management for the better part of his life. He wasn't the most effective manager and was riding this job out until his retirement and was essentially going through the motions, but he did provide lots of insight to me on how do get through the mundane day to day tasks and how to handle crisis situations because he had seen it before. I was much younger than he was and had more "Potential" and now I am in a higher position than he ever got to but learning from him during my first year was invaluable to my development. Regardless of DA's stats there is something to be said about having a guy who has seen things that JA has not, there is something to be said about having a guy in a room who can teach the nuance of the game that comes from a guy who has been in the league for years. Hopefully this little break will give JA a chance to mentally reset, because this is a lot for a kid to take in. Go Bills! Prior to bringing in the lazy experienced boob to instruct you, the young wunderkind, had your organization hired a series of coaches including a specialized Jeetz coach whose focus was to develop you? Can you imagine a coaching room where McDermott, Daboll and David Culley (25 years of coaching experinence) are sitting around saying "I don't know how the hell to get a rookie ready for a game. I think we need a scrub like Derek Anderson. Maybe he can teach us all. " 90% plus of Anderson's experience is in how to prepare to be the backup who is not expected to play. His experience applies much better to Nate Peterman. Heck if you combine a Anderson's experience with Peterman's well of adversity he has accumulated and mix in a little McBeane culture we might be able to develop the best QB ever whose sole job is to ride the pine. Andersons value to the team is to be better than Peterman. No one will know until Sunday if that is the case.
H2o Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 We had a fairly seasoned vet, but when Oakland dangled a 5th with him currently being 3rd on the depth chart at the time they made a decision to let him go. In hindsight it was likely the wrong decision, but those things happen.
BruceVilanch Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Prior to bringing in the lazy experienced boob to instruct you, the young wunderkind, had your organization hired a series of coaches including a specialized Jeetz coach whose focus was to develop you? Can you imagine a coaching room where McDermott, Daboll and David Culley (25 years of coaching experinence) are sitting around saying "I don't know how the hell to get a rookie ready for a game. I think we need a scrub like Derek Anderson. Maybe he can teach us all. " 90% plus of Anderson's experience is in how to prepare to be the backup who is not expected to play. His experience applies much better to Nate Peterman. Heck if you combine a Anderson's experience with Peterman's well of adversity he has accumulated and mix in a little McBeane culture we might be able to develop the best QB ever whose sole job is to ride the pine. Andersons value to the team is to be better than Peterman. No one will know until Sunday if that is the case. Ha ha, no we unfortunately didn't have a "Jeetz" coach, but the point is having someone who has seen things before in any line of work makes it a lot easier. I'm sure your first year at whatever profession you currently have you weren't as effective as you are now. I'm sure there was someone there who was more senior to you who helped train you at your job, and helped guide you through situations you hadn't seen before and for some hearing advice from someone the same rank (current QB to current QB) can go further than hearing it from a coach. I'm not saying by any means that this is going to turn the franchise around this year all I am saying is there is a positive to having DA on the roster.
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 I think that people are forgetting McCarron wanted out. Do some research
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 42 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Prior to bringing in the lazy experienced boob to instruct you, the young wunderkind, had your organization hired a series of coaches including a specialized Jeetz coach whose focus was to develop you? Can you imagine a coaching room where McDermott, Daboll and David Culley (25 years of coaching experinence) are sitting around saying "I don't know how the hell to get a rookie ready for a game. I think we need a scrub like Derek Anderson. Maybe he can teach us all. " 90% plus of Anderson's experience is in how to prepare to be the backup who is not expected to play. His experience applies much better to Nate Peterman. Heck if you combine a Anderson's experience with Peterman's well of adversity he has accumulated and mix in a little McBeane culture we might be able to develop the best QB ever whose sole job is to ride the pine. Andersons value to the team is to be better than Peterman. No one will know until Sunday if that is the case. We know this right now. 1 2
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: We know this right now. It is hard to imagine being worse than Peterman. I will grant you that. But this is the Bills. And anything is possible.
Doc Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I think that people are forgetting McCarron wanted out. Do some research I didn't hear specifically that he wanted out, but I suspect he did and wasn't interested in mentoring Allen.
Man with No Name Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 worth reiterating, Mccarron did not want to be a backup to these guys. Anderson will fill that role better. He understands why he is here. And he is a competent backup who has seen a lot. Good move that should have been made 6 weeks ago. 1
SoCal Deek Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 All of the Monday morning GMs on here have no clue as to the conversations and concerns that went on behind the scenes to get to the point we’re at now. While I totally agree that the Peterman and Allen duo was never going to work, I’m guessing that Bills management did too, and I’m guessing they’ve been working to correct it since the debacle of the Opener.
MAJBobby Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: This might be a little long winded but here it goes. I work as an executive manager and have been doing it now for 6 years, my first year was filled with lots of ups and downs and I made some stupid mistakes and was learning on the fly for the better part of 6 months. At the 6 month mark we hired another manager from a different agency who was about 15 years older than me and worked in management for the better part of his life. He wasn't the most effective manager and was riding this job out until his retirement and was essentially going through the motions, but he did provide lots of insight to me on how do get through the mundane day to day tasks and how to handle crisis situations because he had seen it before. I was much younger than he was and had more "Potential" and now I am in a higher position than he ever got to but learning from him during my first year was invaluable to my development. Regardless of DA's stats there is something to be said about having a guy who has seen things that JA has not, there is something to be said about having a guy in a room who can teach the nuance of the game that comes from a guy who has been in the league for years. Hopefully this little break will give JA a chance to mentally reset, because this is a lot for a kid to take in. Go Bills! And then why does it take until Mid October to sign one of these guys? But I will give you yes he adds something. How much is unknown. But the fact remains this FO botched and mismanaged this position group horribly
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