Paulus Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Build around Allen for the next two years, if Allen does not develop, draft another qb high.
dgrochester55 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Allen is week to week, not severely injured, lets get that out of the way. The only way that drafting a QB makes sense in the next draft is if a decently rated qb falls to the 4th or 5th round and they are drafted to be groomed as a backup/failsafe option. Buffalo invested too much in Allen and people are giving up way too soon. For better or worse, Buffalo isn't drafting another QB high for at least two more years.
VW82 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) I'm practically driving the "Allen is probably too raw to make it" bus and even I think we need to wait until after the season to make this kind of decision. We don't know that he won't come back much improved after the injury. The way I see it there are three outcomes: 1. Allen makes a leap in the second half of the year, and so all we need is a new back up going into next year. 2. Allen slowly improves but isn't where we'd hoped he'd be by year end. As a result we bring in a starting caliber QB and make Allen compete for the job in training camp. If he's the right guy he'll win that battle. 3. Allen continues to look terrible, and there's zero improvement start to finish. We bring in a starting caliber QB to compete for the job, and we draft another QB of the future perhaps even with our first round pick. Edited October 18, 2018 by VW82
2ForMacAdoo Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 2:56 AM, mrags said: I’m a fan of getting the kid from UB. I know they are playing lights out right now and mostly because of him. But where is he expected to go? I highly doubt a kid from UB in the MAC is getting drafted as early as round 3-5 no matter what he does. And yes, don’t bother reminding me about Mack. And yes, I already know the WR Johnson is slated to go in the first few rounds as well. Expand Think again. A guy by the name of Big Ben Roethlisberger (Miami Ohio) was drafted in the 1st round (#11 overall) in the 2004 draft. Last time I looked, Miami (Ohio) was in the MAC.
#34fan Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 2:56 AM, mrags said: I’m a fan of getting the kid from UB. I know they are playing lights out right now and mostly because of him. But where is he expected to go? I highly doubt a kid from UB in the MAC is getting drafted as early as round 3-5 no matter what he does. And yes, don’t bother reminding me about Mack. And yes, I already know the WR Johnson is slated to go in the first few rounds as well. Expand I'd go ahead and grab both... Johnson in the 2nd, and Jackson around the 4th... Some see Tyree as a 3rd, but that seems a bit high... Depends on how the MAC shakes out for UB, and how Tyree does in UB's Bowl game...
Kwai San Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 3:06 AM, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: please just stop this. Jim Kelley went 4-12 his first year. And that is after having 2 years to warm up in the USFL. Way way way too early to start this discussion … again. Expand THIS 110%......my gawd peeps - stop drinking the koolaid and huffing the paint. It. Is. Going. To. Take. Time. Sit back relax a bit - drink a beer, rake your freaking leaves but for the love of all things holy LEAVE YOUR KEYBOARD ALONE! Yes this means YOU! 1
Ol Dirty B Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 1:59 AM, John from Riverside said: To me this is not so much about Josh Allen as it is the fact that Peterman is a bust if you can call a fifth round pick that there needs to be another QB on the roster whether it be a veteran or a after the first round draft pick of a QB I don’t want to reach for a QB in this next draft I want to draft supporting cast for a QB because we just used a seventh overall pick on a rock UB he needs protection he needs A running game and he needs past catchers that not only will catch the ball if it’s not perfect but will break tackles and do something with it after they catch it Expand Guy, use a period once in awhile. You wonder why I look down at you, then you throw up this. The OP was clearly talking about Allen, Peterman won't be here next year.
Dr.Sack Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Will need talent at OL, RB, TE & WR. Will also need an offensive coordinator who understands how to design the offense to enhance QB skillset. Also will need a QB with skills. Allen needs time to develop to determine this.
Figster Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Myself personally, If I was the Bills GM I would start planning ahead for when Tua Toga enters the NFL draft.
GunnerBill Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 1:34 AM, BADOLBILZ said: Worst receivers? No question. Worst offensive line? Very debatable. Lot's of bad O-lines around the league. Expand Totally agree. I estimated last week about how many teams don't need pretty significant oline upgrade. I put the number at about 8. For a couple of years the cry here was "Dallas has a great oline they must have some backups who would be upgrades...." well now look at their line missing a couple of pieces and with a rookie and a backup filling in. It is still far better than ours but no longer anything like dominant. The NFL has a major oline talent issue. 1
John from Riverside Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 4:57 AM, Ol Dirty B said: Guy, use a period once in awhile. You wonder why I look down at you, then you throw up this. The OP was clearly talking about Allen, Peterman won't be here next year. Expand Chief.....where in the world would you ever think that you look down on me......I am beyond you. Get over yourself
Success Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 I’m actually stunned by how quickly so many fans have either written Allen off or come close to doing so. These kinds of threads might make sense toward the end of year 2. Not 5 games in. 3
BobbyC81 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 3:19 AM, Dopey said: This post is awfully familiar to a post by *********** a couple of days ago. How many "draft another qb post are we going 2 have? Expand Tune in tomorrow. Same bat time, same bat channel
Dadonkadonk Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Being a dumb post but a good idea are not mutually exclusive. The OP is correct that they should draft another QB. Of course not in the first round but I would have no problem in any other round. How many QB have the Patriots drafted and traded away. Washington took two in one year. But the idea of drafting another QB because of how Allen has played so far is insane. He is a rookie QB playing as well or better than the rookie MLB. I have no issue drafting a QB every year. Maybe they land Brees in the 2nd, Wilson in the 3rd, Brady in the 6th, or hell Romo after the draft. Keep going to the well until you find a superstar. If you find two then you trade one for more assets.
GunnerBill Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 They have taken a QB in the draft the last 3 years. Not the right ones in my mind but that is still progress compared to the years when we almost steadfastly refused to pick Quarterbacks. They should take one in this draft if the opportunity arises. Not in the 1st... I am not giving up on Allen yet and I don't love this class anyway. But if there was a guy there in rounds 2 or 3 or 4 who made sense they should absolutely pick him. Your aim in every draft should be the find a QB that makes sense with one of your picks.
Heitz Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 The fact that we haven’t already drafted at least two more QBs this year is a complete outrage! Buddy - asleep at the wheel!!
billsredneck1 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 1:51 AM, BuffaloBillsGospel said: It's not a terrible idea but it will never happen imo. These coaches and GMs have enormous egos, selecting a QB in rounds 1-2 would be them admitting they tailed with Allen and it's way too early for anyone to make that call. Expand the pats are always drafting qbs. they took jimmy g in the 2nd.
Real McClappy Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 OP is right, we do need to draft a QB next year as we need a better QB2 with upside. Our back-up scenario is putrid.
H2o Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) Depends on how FA goes for us. Drafting another QB is not a need if we can get a solid back up in FA, which is what I expect us to do. McCown, Fitz, Siemian, Fales, Cassell are all available. Edited October 18, 2018 by H2o
Trogdor Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 3:06 AM, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: please just stop this. Jim Kelley went 4-12 his first year. And that is after having 2 years to warm up in the USFL. Way way way too early to start this discussion … again. Expand I don't know why everyone keeps throwing this out there. Please go back and show me where he looked as awful as Allen in his first year. He averaged around 225yds per game and close to 60% completion. That was all in a different era of football that didn't favor the passing game. Also, can we stop using wins and losses as though this isn't a team game? You take away some garbage time GB stats and it's pretty clear that Allen isn't ready and isn't even close to Kelly's level. Hell, he isn't even on EJs level. EJ looked much better all season.
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