ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, no name said: exaggerate much? you sure have brought a lot of drama to this thread. No. They are operating... Just as if they were a machine operator. Now, you want operators with drama issues? Needing to be chemically relaxed... Pandora's Box. Same with teachers. They take their work home more. Now, we will have educators working while under the influence. Not exaggerating. Not at all. Welcome to brave new world. Look... I am a liberal, I get it. If the masses want it, give it to them.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No. They are operating... Just as if they were a machine operator. Now, you want operators with drama issues? Needing to be chemically relaxed... Pandora's Box. Same with teachers. They take their work home more. Now, we will have educators working while under the influence. Not exaggerating. Not at all. Welcome to brave new world. Look... I am a liberal, I get it. If the masses want it, give it to them. I have to ask, do you drink alcoholic beverages? Did allowing craft breweries and distilleries result in an epidemic of drunkenness? How do bosses deal with people drinking on the job? People can spark up and go to work now. Making it legal doesn't change the chances of that happening. You keep bringing up pot as such an issue in the 'hood as if it's the sole reason people are such a mess. If someone could wave a magic wand and make pot vanish, all the problems you describe would still be there. People are a mess, not because they abuse substances, but because their circumstances lead them to abuse as an escape. Substance abuse is a symptom, not a cause. Edited October 18, 2018 by PromoTheRobot
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The point is anything in excess is a problem. There are alcoholics but millions still drink responsibly. I can't defend tobacco. But we let people smoke. Most gun owners are responsible but we let any dimwit own one, even a machine gun. Legal pot doesn't change its impact on society, other than right a wrong. I understand your point. I am for trying, but let's be real here. Guns are a right. Legal pot does change its impact on society. Crutches that turn in wheelchairs. Agree to disagree. Discourage it. Yet look the other way within reason. Don't encourage it. The danger zone here as with other substances is around 30 years old and below. How the hell do You keep it out of those hands, You don't. The goal is to discourage, not encourage. Society still needs structure.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Wow! Tobacco is substance abuse. Overeating is too. Okay maybe overeating. Just like putting a slow gun to Your head. We simply don't know. It's not that prevalant and mainstream yet as is alcohol. Also driving too slow is just as, if not more dangerous. WRT driving under the influence. Indecision kills from a safety standpoint, and others around You. What will be the threshold hold for driving and operating machinery? What will be the in the field measuring device, systems for determining impairment? What about accidental ingestion through edibles? Lacing of food? When I lived in WNY I had dope all the time. Over 20 years of driving and not once was I in an accident or dui. Speeding. Well that’s a different story it comes down to the individual and their personal responsibilities imo.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I have to ask, do you drink alcoholic beverages? Did allowing craft breweries and distilleries result in an epidemic of drunkenness? How do bosses deal with people drinking on the job? People can spark up and go to work now. Making it legal doesn't change the chances of that happening. You keep bringing up pot as such an issue in the 'hood as if it's the sole reason people are such a mess. If someone could wave a magic wand and make pot vanish, all the problems you describe would still be there. People are a mess, not because they abuse substances, but because their circumstances lead them to abuse as an escape. Substance abuse is a symptom, not a cause. I know it can't vanish. I don't want it to. I drink... I was ROY @ Tailgate Flip Cup.
LB3 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 The worst thing weed ever did to me was make me enjoy Sunny Delight. 1 1
teef Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Great! Malpractice insurance providers would love to know Her name! ex...i don't think you understand. you can smoke and not effect work the same way you'd have a beer or two and go to work. she doesn't get high before work, so i don't know why you think malpractice would be an issue. she's one of the smartest women i've met, and would have her treat a family member in a second. 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: When I lived in WNY I had dope all the time. Over 20 years of driving and not once was I in an accident or dui. Speeding. Well that’s a different story it comes down to the individual and their personal responsibilities imo. Great. Another, my grandfather lived to 99 while smoking cigars, and eating a pound of bacon and 1/5 of whiskey every day. I get. People want it. I am for giving it to them. I will vote with You Guys... Just be there when the consequences hit the fan as I will be there to eat crow if they don't. And God knows, I hope I eat crow! I get the pulse of the people. The older generation, Silent Generation is almost all dead. That's who I was raised by. I am neither of a Boomer or Millennial (Am Xer). Go Figure. 5 minutes ago, teef said: ex...i don't think you understand. you can smoke and not effect work the same way you'd have a beer or two and go to work. she doesn't get high before work, so i don't know why you think malpractice would be an issue. she's one of the smartest women i've met, and would have her treat a family member in a second. Yeah... She give herself enough time to wake properly and get mind right? Glad She makes big bucks because that's probably the "escape velocity." 1
teef Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Great. Another, my grandfather lived to 99 while smoking cigars, and eating a pound of bacon and 1/5 of whiskey every day. I get. People want it. I am for giving it to them. I will vote with You Guys... Just be there when the consequences hit the fan as I will be there to eat crow if they don't. And God knows, I hope I eat crow! I get the pulse of the people. The older generation, Silent Generation is almost all dead. That's who I was raised by. I am neither of a Boomer or Millennial (Am Xer). Go Figure. Yeah... She give herself enough time to wake properly and get mind right? Glad She makes big bucks because that's probably the "escape velocity." i'm sure she does. i'll smoke here and there, and it's never once effected me negatively. i'm not saying what happens to me happens to everyone else, but i started when i was 15, and since then i've gone to college, grad school, post grad work, attending in a hospital, my own office, and in the next month, i'm breaking ground on a new building including a lab. pot didn't deter this at all. in some it may, in others it won't. i keep my smoking quiet for such reasons as people thinking i can't do my job properly. it's foolish, but that's the way some think.
Dante Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Pete said: Unleashing weed ? The black market is the only free market. What we have is cronie capitalism I don't think most people get this. True though.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, teef said: i'm sure she does. i'll smoke here and there, and it's never once effected me negatively. i'm not saying what happens to me happens to everyone else, but i started when i was 15, and since then i've gone to college, grad school, post grad work, attending in a hospital, my own office, and in the next month, i'm breaking ground on a new building including a lab. pot didn't deter this at all. in some it may, in others it won't. i keep my smoking quiet for such reasons as people thinking i can't do my job properly. it's foolish, but that's the way some think. Again. $$$$$ escaped the drawbacks? Would You agree with this? Being well compensated, some would say too over-compensated has to be a factor. The Guy that wrecks his body for pennies would tend to abuse the drug more? Say struggling to pay bills, escapes a little deeper with even more people in her sphere exposed to an unsafe action. How do You differentiate between the two. Who do You test if You test at all. Frankly, I don't want my cabbie or my oncologist needing to be self-medicated. But that's just me. 10 minutes ago, Dante said: I don't think most people get this. True though. Oh, I get it. Yet, the world needs order. Chaos doesn't work.
teef Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Again. $$$$$ escaped the drawbacks? Would You agree with this? Being well compensated, some would say too over-compensated has to be a factor. The Guy that wrecks his body for pennies would tend to abuse the drug more? Say struggling to pay bills, escapes a little deeper with even more people in her sphere exposed to an unsafe action. How do You differentiate between the two. Who do You test if You test at all. Frankly, I don't want my cabbie or my oncologist needing to be self-medicated. But that's just me. well, if you don't want personnel in your life that doesn't smoke pot, drink beer, drink coffee, smoke cigarettes, eats too much, etc, you might as well move to a deserted island. you just don't like it when people "self medicate", and that fine, but if you think someone working on you at least hasn't had a glass of wine the night before, you're kidding yourself. i drink and smoke to enjoy myself on occasion, and i don't make excuses because i don't have to. i've lived my life how i've wanted, and have been successful while doing it. legalization of anything won't change how i, or most people live. 1
JMF2006 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Nope. It's recreationally legal in: Colorado Washington Oregon California Nevada Alaska Massachusetts Maine Vermont District of Columbia 18 additional states allow medical use. Wow your more than 1/2 way there.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, teef said: well, if you don't want personnel in your life that doesn't smoke pot, drink beer, drink coffee, smoke cigarettes, eats too much, etc, you might as well move to a deserted island. you just don't like it when people "self medicate", and that fine, but if you think someone working on you at least hasn't had a glass of wine the night before, you're kidding yourself. i drink and smoke to enjoy myself on occasion, and i don't make excuses because i don't have to. i've lived my life how i've wanted, and have been successful while doing it. legalization of anything won't change how i, or most people live. It's not always the same as a glass of wine. It is for the elites. I view as a personal weakness... Pot that is. Not to say I have never partaken. I view tobacco as the same. I don't view alcohol, there is some nutritional value. Now edibles I could come around to. But, then again, you are medicating food. Why? Are people really that stressed out. Recreational now? I can see medical purposes. Pain, glaucoma, etc... I find it shallow for recreational purposes more so than alcohol. Maybe it's that alcoholism that I have been exposed to. I am NOT a teetotaler or will I be a Weedtotaler. People will invariably go over board and culture will have to shift back. Edited October 18, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: The worst thing weed ever did to me was make me enjoy Sunny Delight. Used to buy that fro my kids school lunches.. Florida or California ? one was better than the other and I liked it too ----------- Who here that hasn't smoked pot liked Beevis and Butthead? (a show you probably need to be stoned to watch)
unbillievable Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: When I lived in WNY I had dope all the time. Over 20 years of driving and not once was I in an accident or dui. Just because you didn't kill anyone, doesn't mean you're not an @#%& for risking it. Currently, there is no way for an officer to test if a driver is currently high on Pot, but that can change soon. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/07/pot-breathalyzers-hound-labs-marijuana/912705002/ Edited October 18, 2018 by unbillievable
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Great. Another, my grandfather lived to 99 while smoking cigars, and eating a pound of bacon and 1/5 of whiskey every day. I get. People want it. I am for giving it to them. I will vote with You Guys... Just be there when the consequences hit the fan as I will be there to eat crow if they don't. And God knows, I hope I eat crow! I think that is directed my way??? I'm 61. I've been getting high (much less now cuz I don't have easy access - so 2 or 3 weeks out of 52) since I was 14, 15 years old. I have never had an issue with the law or any pathway addiction to harder drugs. I did give up the LSD, mescaline, mushrooms and coke by the late 80's. My work sends Astronauts into space, supplies and science missions to the ISS and 3 of my designs have reached Pluto and the Kuiper belt. Zero Consequences.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Just because you didn't kill anyone, doesn't mean your not an @#%& for risking it. Currently, there is no way for an officer to test if a driver is currently high on Pot, but that can change soon. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/07/pot-breathalyzers-hound-labs-marijuana/912705002/ Yet... People will crucify for texting and driving. Stoned? They can blame the drug, scapegoat they got impaired. Sad... People need crutches gave "recreational" activity. Again, not against it all. Just too gratuitous, pot, that is. Like alcohol and sports, people feel part of a group.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Just because you didn't kill anyone, doesn't mean your not an @#%& for risking it. Currently, there is no way for an officer to test if a driver is currently high on Pot, but that can change soon. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/07/pot-breathalyzers-hound-labs-marijuana/912705002/ spoken like a person with a stick .... Sorry that was childish of me. I chose to smoke a bowl over not drinking 6 beers and 3 or 4 shots then driving home 3 or 4 nights a weak. I don't or haven't attacked you so you shouldn't attack me. Calling me a ***** is wrong. How many accidents have you been in or caused? to my ZERO Edited October 18, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I think that is directed my way??? I'm 61. I've been getting high (much less now cuz I don't have easy access - so 2 or 3 weeks out of 52) since I was 14, 15 years old. I have never had an issue with the law or any pathway addiction to harder drugs. I did give up the LSD, mescaline, mushrooms and coke by the late 80's. My work sends Astronauts into space, supplies and science missions to the ISS and 3 of my designs have reached Pluto and the Kuiper belt. Zero Consequences. You got lucky. Outlier. Or... Very good at self-regulation. Not many good @ that. Also came of age, educated during the dawning of the new tech. That helps? 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: spoken like a person with a stick .... Sorry that was childish of me. I chose to smoke a bowl over not drinking 6 beers and 3 or 4 shots then driving home 3 or 4 nights a weak. Lung cancer ever worry you? Smoking that is. Joint cough? @ShadyBillsFan: Not directed @ You. The above post that is.
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