oldmanfan Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Really hmm but in March were you not drafting a QB? So wouldnt it be smart having a real Vet in the Room? That started Over 10 NFL games Yes. From what Tasker said today they were trying to get Anderson for quite a while, right?
Saxum Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I dont think that there's a single person on the planet other than McDermott & Beane who isn't perplexed by Peterman being on the roster. P5t5rman is perplexed being still on roster?
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: Yes. From what Tasker said today they were trying to get Anderson for quite a while, right? Since before the draft??? Nope that was McCarron and Peterman. I notice you refuse to go when they started this entire mismanagement Free Agency 1
RyanC883 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This disaster could have easily been avoided if they just would have cut ties with Peterman after seeing him last year. That’s what I would have done. I had seen enough. If they would have come to grips with the fact that he couldn’t play in this league they’d have had something like Allen, McCarron and Anderson. While that QB room isn’t spectacular it would have at least made sense. A vet, a young vet with some upside and a 1st round pick. I like it, but I would have taken a bigger risk with Bridgewater (he had an injury risk) and had Allen, Bridgewater, and Anderson. 4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Yes. From what Tasker said today they were trying to get Anderson for quite a while, right? I think this is possible. Anderson did say something about teams contacting him earlier but he didn't feel the time was right. Perhaps didn't want to do training camp, etc. I still don't get how Landry Jones is out there and Peterman is here. The offensive system here is not that complex. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: I like it, but I would have taken a bigger risk with Bridgewater (he had an injury risk) and had Allen, Bridgewater, and Anderson. Perfect, like that even better.
oldmanfan Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Since before the draft??? Nope that was McCarron and Peterman. I notice you refuse to go when they started this entire mismanagement Free Agency I will go back to what I said before. Knowing they were drafting a guy round 1 (and knowing they were going to clear cap space) they were not in the market to go after a Keenum or Bradford. So they looked at lower tier FAs and McCarron made sense. Then Peterman played great in preseason and McCarron didn't. Their mistake was not bringing in a guy as soon as McCarron went. But from what Tasker said they were trying. And of course Peterman throws up on himself. 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I like it, but I would have taken a bigger risk with Bridgewater (he had an injury risk) and had Allen, Bridgewater, and Anderson. I think this is possible. Anderson did say something about teams contacting him earlier but he didn't feel the time was right. Perhaps didn't want to do training camp, etc. I still don't get how Landry Jones is out there and Peterman is here. The offensive system here is not that complex. I agree about Jones. But they did bring him in for a look and we don't know how that went.
The_Dude Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 I think Terry needs to die before this team has a chance in hell. Look at Terry’s sports history — absolutely awful. This is the 2nd coach he picked. It’s the 2nd coach who’s dedicated to the run and good defense. This team may very well suck till Terry dies/sells the team. Feels like Ralph’s last 10 years. Why hat am I still even watching?
sleeby Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 I've got it! I'm the one that's got it figured out. Everyone seems so miserable over this whole thing - let's lighten up and take the p-ss and smile, smile, smile. Trade JA to the giants for their first round pick and we tank with petermen and clean up the draft a la cleveland last spring. We bring back the whammies and just laugh our way to 2019. Almost half way there anyhow. Ha.
Saint Doug Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, stony said: It's not like they didn't have any film on him or anything. Well, they had 2 games of film, so basically they didn’t have any film on him.
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I will go back to what I said before. Knowing they were drafting a guy round 1 (and knowing they were going to clear cap space) they were not in the market to go after a Keenum or Bradford. So they looked at lower tier FAs and McCarron made sense. Then Peterman played great in preseason and McCarron didn't. Their mistake was not bringing in a guy as soon as McCarron went. But from what Tasker said they were trying. And of course Peterman throws up on himself. I agree about Jones. But they did bring him in for a look and we don't know how that went. Notice again you ignore Bridgewater Anderson Moore Henne Fitzpatrick but hey guess McCarron and his three games was smart 1
1st&ten Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Who would you have brought in? Bradford? Hah! The FA available QBs were all about the same. And knowing they were going to draft a young guy no way they were going to spend huge dollars on someone like a Keenum. With the state of our offensive line I think we should have just keep 3 QB's at least for 10--11 games.
ProcessTruster Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Teddy was a 1 year 6M contract. How is that going back into any Cap hell again? assuming they are right up against the cap right now, signing Teddy at 6 perhaps would have meant no other FA signings this year , which would have been unacceptable is my guess. McCarron wasn't that much, and when he washed out they didn't even want to keep his lower number. I really don't know, but if they are as tight against the cap as we've been lead to believe , I would wager 6m is more than they've put out this year to all of their FA signings
Ol Dirty B Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, George C said: Give them a break.. nothing was mismanaged. They are after early draft choices and shedding dead money. End of story. Can someone explain to me, how this wasn't mismanaged? I see people saying they handled it correctly. They drafted someone they even said they wanted to sit, and not rush into games. They said this for months. They signed McCarron and inexplicably kept Peterman. Peterman absolutely did nothing to earn another shot after his performances in LA, and Jacksonville. That game played out just like Sunday's. McCarron wasn't proven, they did nothing to address the situation on the line. They did nothing at WR. Anyone would be in a tough spot at QB, especially guys like McCarron and Peterman with a top 10 QB supposedly taking a red shirt year behind them. So they had two options, get a guy in who can handle adversity, or put more around McCarron and Peterman. Instead, they bailed on plan A with McCarron. And bailed on plans B, Peterman, and C, letting Allen sit. They've looked like they have no plan and no resiliency to stick to it. I thought Bridgewater was the best gamble, by far. 4
HappyDays Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Fadingpain said: To trade your only slightly proven guy was a mistake Here we go again. McCarron is not proven at all. And the high 5th round pick we got for him is infinitely more valuable than anything he offers to our team this year. There is practically a 0% chance his presence on the team contributes anything to our future. Based on how this regime has drafted, that 5th round pick has probably a 25-30% chance of contributing to our future. It was an easy decision and I wouldn't change it now. I wish Anderson had gotten here a few weeks sooner but it really is meaningless.
Hebert19 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: But Peterman was clearly better than McCarron in preseason. The mystery is why Peterman throws up on himself Yes. Agree. But if they actually thought he was the answer and could provide any help in growing Allen then they are idiots.
Ol Dirty B Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I get get everything you’re saying and you’re right. But we have the lowest paid roster in the NFL this year. On the other hand, we have gobs of cap space in 2019 and 2020. Circumstances like that don’t happen by chance. Beane minimized spending this year to build a better future. This year is a train wreck by design. You can’t let every other team to outspend you and expect to be competitive. Having said all that, I’m guessing Beane didn’t expect the QB position to be this bad. If this season is a planned trainwreck, under no circumstances do you put Allen out there. They have no plan. It is just incompetence.
mannc Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Thank you Peter King. McD and Company seat should be getting warmer Horribly mismanaging the QB position should be grounds for termination in and of itself, no matter how recently you were hired.
Kirby Jackson Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: assuming they are right up against the cap right now, signing Teddy at 6 perhaps would have meant no other FA signings this year , which would have been unacceptable is my guess. McCarron wasn't that much, and when he washed out they didn't even want to keep his lower number. I really don't know, but if they are as tight against the cap as we've been lead to believe , I would wager 6m is more than they've put out this year to all of their FA signings Money wouldn’t have been an issue at all in adding Bridgewater. They wanted to keep the path clear for their 1st round guy. They bungled the situation and there really is no way around it. Edited October 17, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 2
TFBillsfan Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Imagine if any other player on the roster got torched for 10 Td’s in 4 games, fumbled 10 times in 4 games, they would be cut immediately, yet somehow NP gets to stay on the roster with his play. Lunacy is correct. It’s an embarrassment our head coach can’t see that NP has no business being on any NFL roster! Belichek would of released him at halftime in SD! Decisions like this make me untrust the process and SMH! 1
oldmanfan Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Notice again you ignore Bridgewater Anderson Moore Henne Fitzpatrick but hey guess McCarron and his three games was smart What the hell are you talking about? I said they should have gotten a veteran guy and they took McCarron. I also said that the other FAs that were in their price range were all the same guy, and that they should have gotten one when they decided to trade McCarron. And I said Bridgewater's knee scared tgem off as well as many other teams. ignore? You don't actually read what is posted. 15 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: With the state of our offensive line I think we should have just keep 3 QB's at least for 10--11 games. Good point.
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