iccrewman112 Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 While becoming increasingly frustrated with the approach on offense. I have wondered for years (since Chan Gailey) why the Bills do not run simple passing patterns that would likely increase completion percentage, limit three and outs, and help sustain drives. Is it easier to throw judge a throw on 20+ yard go route to the boundary where the QB must judge distance and time leading the receiver as opposed to completing shallow crossing routes where the QB again has to judge how far to lead the WR to keep them in stride. I think the cross pattern also represents a route that the receiver has a higher likelihood of winning against a defender. However this would also required a higher level of smarts for both the QB and receiver knowing when to continue a pattern or sit in a hole in the zone. I took a look at the stats through week six (minus the GB/Niners game), and wanted to see how the passing yards per game and points per game were related to the percentage of passing yards that were yards after catch (YAC). Much to my surprise, only 2 of the top 16 scoring teams were in the top 10 of yards after catch percentage (Saints and Lions). Moreover, when looking at 10 teams with the highest YAC%, (table below) only one was in the top 12 in scoring (again the Saints). Team Scoring Rank YAC Percentage San Francisco 49ers 17 64% Tennessee Titans 30 59% New York Giants 27 58% Buffalo Bills 32 56% Green Bay Packers 19 54% Detroit Lions 14 54% Oakland Raiders 28 52% New Orleans Saints 1 52% Philadelphia Eagles 20 50% Jacksonville Jaguars 29 48% So I was thinking I must have been wrong and throwing the ball downfield leads to points, but I honestly don't think the Bills have the WR's to win matchups or the O-line to protect long enough, which means it has to come down to scheme. Play to what little strengths our WRs have and take advantage of matchups. That means pre-snap motion to help Allen determine coverages, Shady motioned out to line up against a LB. All of the stuff most of the top scoring teams do today. I looked back at the Bills offensive coaches, and there doesnt appear to be much there from a creativity standpoint, but on Daboll's first stint with the Patriots when Brady was being brough along slowly and they were winning with Defense he was the WR coach. That team was defunct of WR talent and whole solely off scheme and matchup principles. David Patten, Troy Brown, David Givens, and Deion Branch never had a 1000 yard season from 2002-04. Christian Fauria was the TE. Can he go back and find re-use any of this stuff or has the game changed too much since? I still believe short passes that lend themselves to YAC would help this team with field position and sustaining drives, but I'm interested to know what the rest of you guys think is the best approach. I'd prefer this not end up being a Fire Daboll, Sign real WRs, etc list. If you were the new offensive consultant for the Bills what would you do with the existing roster. 1
Paulus Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 The CBs play such loose coverage on Allen. They're 10 yards back from the line of scrimmage. I have no idea why Allen isn't throwing the outs, or just to the flat.
The Wiz Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Paulus said: The CBs play such loose coverage on Allen. They're 10 yards back from the line of scrimmage. I have no idea why Allen isn't throwing the outs, or just to the flat. Not for nothing but I doubt he is calling audibles and just running what is sent in from the booth. Other than the first miss-fire to clay in think the slants were good for him yesterday. Should have called more IMO.
iccrewman112 Posted October 16, 2018 Author Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, Paulus said: The CBs play such loose coverage on Allen. They're 10 yards back from the line of scrimmage. I have no idea why Allen isn't throwing the outs, or just to the flat. This was a staple of the Patriots of early years. I distinctly recall everytime Kevin Faulk motioned and lined up outside he got a 10 yard cushion (that he didn't deserve) which meant a automatic 7-8 yard completion. 1
machine gun kelly Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 I don’t get it either. Why Daboll is so enamored with Allen’s big arm, but he would gain confidence if he throws a lot of short or intermediate passes. When the CB’s respond by playing press, then we try a couple of long throws, and a heavy dose of running.
PearlHowardman Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 The Buffalo Bills need to tank the rest of the season for a high draft pick in 2019. Otherwise it will be: 8-8 forever!
iccrewman112 Posted October 16, 2018 Author Posted October 16, 2018 10 hours ago, PearlHowardman said: The Buffalo Bills need to tank the rest of the season for a high draft pick in 2019. Otherwise it will be: 8-8 forever! So as the newly hired offensive consultant that's your recommendation? Thanks for the constructive feedback.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 Stats do not win games That is all. Ok. Maybe not. Play at smart run hard and lock them down on defense
Samwell Tarly Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 They could try kneeling 3 times and punting, and hope the defense scores on turnovers. Although that's not much different than what they've been doing...?
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 21 hours ago, The Wiz said: Not for nothing but I doubt he is calling audibles and just running what is sent in from the booth. Other than the first miss-fire to clay in think the slants were good for him yesterday. Should have called more IMO. Ya slant, crossing routes, scenes good vs that defense play. 54 minutes ago, Jigsaw2112 said: They could try kneeling 3 times and punting, and hope the defense scores on turnovers. Although that's not much different than what they've been doing...? Heck if Peterman starting i'd run the ball whole game until per say 2 last minutes warning key third down for it. But run the ball every time even on third down if he's in.
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