Mark Vader Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:21 PM, Augie said: Until you KNOW you have your guy.... They will give Josh more time, but (while he’s ours and I love him) he looks like what I expected. Expand Which is why he should get all the time to grow as our quarterback. Drafting a quarterback in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round next year is a waste of time. We need to build our team around Allen. Unless we decide to draft someone to replace Peterman, I say forget it.
Guest Mike147 Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:25 PM, Mark Vader said: Which is why he should get all the time to grow as our quarterback. Drafting a quarterback in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round next year is a waste of time. We need to build our team around Allen. Unless we decide to draft someone to replace Peterman, I say forget it. Expand Which is why the team needs to draft, sign or acquire someone to push him. Force him to put in the work and improve and earn his place as the guy. If we don't and continue to have players like Peterman backing him up, then there's no competion and we are relying on him to have the work ethic to work hard and improve without that competition. Sometimes having that competition pushes a player far more than having no one to push them. The other reason to have a legitimate alternative is in case he keeps making the same mistakes and/or doesn't improve. That way we can make a change and not have to force a square peg into a round hole because we have no legitimate alternative like this season. Another reason to draft someone is if we hit on a prospect that develops to a level that they become a draft asset, we can always sell them for a profit like the Patriots did with Cassel, Brisset and Garoppolo. That way we get a prospect as insurance and to bring us future assets.
Mark Vader Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:45 PM, Mike147 said: Which is why the team needs to draft, sign or acquire someone to push him. Force him to put in the work and improve and earn his place as the guy. If we don't and continue to have players like Peterman backing him up, then there's no competion and we are relying on him to have the work ethic to work hard and improve without that competition. Sometimes having that competition pushes a player far more than having no one to push them. The other reason to have a legitimate alternative is in case he keeps making the same mistakes and/or doesn't improve. That way we can make a change and not have to force a square peg into a round hole because we have no legitimate alternative like this season. Another reason to draft someone is if we hit on a prospect that develops to a level that they become a draft asset, we can always sell them for a profit like the Patriots did with Cassel, Brisset and Garoppolo. That way we get a prospect as insurance and to bring us future assets. Expand We don't have that kind of luxury. If you want to sign a veteran quarterback during free agency, fine. We have our quarterback of the future, and we have to build around him. We need receivers and offensive linemen and more defensive depth.
jrober38 Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:51 PM, Mark Vader said: We don't have that kind of luxury. If you want to sign a veteran quarterback during free agency, fine. We have our quarterback of the future, and we have to build around him. We need receivers and offensive linemen and more defensive depth. Expand Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL.
Steptide Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 I honestly think Allen was not there first choice, but was the best choice for them. Personally I think they wanted Darnold or even Mayfield. I think they took Allen over Rosen because of rosens injury history
Augie Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:25 PM, Mark Vader said: Which is why he should get all the time to grow as our quarterback. Drafting a quarterback in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round next year is a waste of time. We need to build our team around Allen. Unless we decide to draft someone to replace Peterman, I say forget it. Expand He’s certainly not Eli. I get building around Josh, but if you’re picking at the top, never disregard a QB.
iinii Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 8:20 PM, peterpan said: Trade mCcoy for foles. It makes too much sense. If he walks as a fa we get a third round comp pick. We can tag him for a few years if Allen does develop. Sign him long term if he works out Expand This may have potential
Mark Vader Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:52 PM, jrober38 said: Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL. Expand So we do not need help at WR or O-Line? Neither of those positions are a priority?
Guest Mike147 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 12:07 AM, Mark Vader said: So we do not need help at WR or O-Line? Neither of those positions are a priority? Expand Of course they are, but this team should not ignore the possibility of drafting a QB high if they believe they are a can't miss prospect and Josh Allen continues to perform woefully, and even if they don't take anyone high they can always consider a day two or three prospect. We aren't going to use every pick on a receiver or oline, so if someone falls pick them up. Obviously Allen was taken to be our QB of the future, but so was Jimmy Clausen when the Panthers picked him. They gave up on him after one year when they were presented with the opportunity to draft Cam Newton presented itself. Other teams have given up on players before. So we'd be naive to think our front office wouldn't do the same if they felt someone better was available that could upgrade that position and make us more competitive.
Big Gun Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 8:22 PM, Fadingpain said: I'm the leader of the "Draft another QB" club, but your proposal is fine with me. The cries for a new QB will only grow in number and intensity as the season unfolds. Expand Doubt it
Best Player Available Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:52 PM, jrober38 said: Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL. Expand Do you actually watch football games?
The 9 Isles Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 8:08 PM, COTC said: Should’ve took Rosen... Expand Should have taken Mahomes. Kept some players and draft picks. This team is so stupid.
jrober38 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 2:14 AM, Best Player Available said: Do you actually watch football games? Expand Yes. We have the worst starting QB in the league. This team is going nowhere unless that changes. 1
Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) On 10/14/2018 at 9:57 PM, PetermanThrew5Picks said: You can draft a backup project at round 3, dump Peterman, get a vet and hope knowing Josh is not the only Quarterback on the team that isn't an automatic loss might light further fire from him. Being a quarterback on a team that could be punting games and knowing Peterman is the only competition doesn't lead to the best competitive intangible development. Expand That’s a good point but people thinking the bills are gonna pick another top 10 qb are delusional. On 10/14/2018 at 10:08 PM, Fadingpain said: Drafting another QB does not have to amount to "bailing" on Josh Allen. You are analyzing the situation in a very simplistic way and relying on what football teams have tended to do in the past, none of which is relevant to what the Bills could or should do in 2019. Expand That would be the definition of bailing on Allen lol. So then what you are gonna just let Allen sit on the bench after losing all those assests? This is the real world and this doesn’t happen budddy. Edited October 15, 2018 by Rocbillsfan1 1
bills11 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 even if ja was the worst qb ever..mcbeane will never draft another qb while they are here they have shown nothing but sheer arrogance with their decision making..ie sticking with peterman and not even looking at any of the qbs that year watson mahomes
Big Turk Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 We should take one in the mid rounds...one who doesn't panic when he gets in games.
Mister Defense Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Come on! Alllen is one ultra bad sub away from being 3-2, against playoff bound teams. He is leading the team to wins, making plays, and learning on the run. Yup, not a pretty offense today. But Allen didn't make the big error, gave the Bills a chance; Bills should have won. No one thought this team was going to be good this year. They are, and Allen is clearly an important part of that. The Bills just need to find their legs on offense.
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:52 PM, jrober38 said: Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL. Expand We have the worst WR situation in the league. Maybe in NFL history. This is far bigger problem than QB 1
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