Needle Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:12 PM, TheElectricCompany said: Culture trumps strategy, right? As long as get some undersized, lunch pail boys who work tirelessly at their craft, we're good. Expand Why can't we get talented guys that work tirelessly at their craft and support their teammates? Plenty of examples of guys like that around the league.
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 4:52 PM, TheElectricCompany said: We know OBJs trajectory, and it's a gold jacket. Could his output be different on another team? Absolutely, but I think it's safe to say that a player of his caliber would be pretty damn productive in any system. Expand Yup. No doubt he would have light it up with EJ, Tyrod, and Peterman.
sleeby Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:12 PM, TheElectricCompany said: Culture trumps strategy, right? As long as get some undersized, lunch pail boys who work tirelessly at their craft, we're good. Expand I in no way said undersized and am not even sure what lunch pail boys are.
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 3:30 PM, sleeby said: Buffalo is not braggadicio. We are hard work and get er done rust belt. Fred Jackson is what works here - not OBJ. Expand This is the biggest crock of BS i have ever heard.
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:19 PM, Needle said: Why can't we get talented guys that work tirelessly at their craft and support their teammates? Plenty of examples of guys like that around the league. Expand I think OBJ works pretty damn hard at being an elite players. "Support their teammates"....well, he made it clear that what they're doing isn't good enough. He may of gone a step too far calling out Eli (he is NYG royalty after all). Look, I think it's all kind of hysterical. This is a talent driven league. You should collect as many HOF type players as you can, assuming they don't beat up their wives or murder people that look at them weird at a club.
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:22 PM, sleeby said: I in no way said undersized and am not even sure what lunch pail boys are. Expand Lunch pail = blue collar. Less talented but work hard. cause you know that's what wins games, or something like that.
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) On 10/12/2018 at 5:21 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Yup. No doubt he would have light it up with EJ, Tyrod, and Peterman. Expand Who knows. The whole scenario is fantasyland. At the same time, what if you paired him up with Rodgers or Brees? It's reasonable to say that he'd be even better! As I said, he's trending toward the HOF. I think he'd be a top WR anywhere. It's not like the Giants are some amazing situation. They've had coaching, QB and talent issues for years. Edited October 12, 2018 by TheElectricCompany
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:07 PM, Buffalo Boy said: The amount of cap space he is taking up, the effect he is having on the locker room and the won/ lost record Dont see him as a catch. Bet Gettlemen wishes he had traded him for a couple first rounders and a potential new QB in next years draft. Expand At this point probably wishes he'd traded him for a case of cheetos and a used paper towel. On 10/12/2018 at 5:24 PM, TheElectricCompany said: I think OBJ works pretty damn hard at being an elite players. "Support their teammates"....well, he made it clear that what they're doing isn't good enough. He may of gone a step too far calling out Eli (he is NYG royalty after all). Look, I think it's all kind of hysterical. This is a talent driven league. You should collect as many HOF type players as you can, assuming they don't beat up their wives or murder people that look at them weird at a club. Expand The point is, you call them out man-to-man, in a team meeting, to their face. What good does it do fluffing up negative press? 1
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:07 PM, Buffalo Boy said: The amount of cap space he is taking up, the effect he is having on the locker room and the won/ lost record Dont see him as a catch. Bet Gettlemen wishes he had traded him for a couple first rounders and a potential new QB in next years draft. Expand Just curious what people thoughts are on Adam Theilen?
sleeby Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:24 PM, CountDorkula said: This is the biggest crock of BS i have ever heard. Expand Do you not remember shady's invite for women to send him photos so that he might select who to party with when he arrives? Or watkins' tweet about the little people? Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly.
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:37 PM, sleeby said: Do you not remember shady's invite for women to send him photos so that he might select who to party with when he arrives? Or watkins' tweet about the little people? Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly. Expand Watkins tweet about little people was because he went to Disney world with his family and people basically wished catastrophic injury and ill will at his family. Who cares if McCoy wants to have an all girls party, I sure as hell don't. If you do I suggest maybe stepping back from life a little bit. So its ok for fans to be complete dicks to players but not the other way around, so double standard, got it. 1
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) On 10/12/2018 at 5:37 PM, sleeby said: Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly. Expand Keep the hits coming. "Small town", "simple values". You know it's been called one of the more racist cities in the country? Edited October 12, 2018 by TheElectricCompany
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:37 PM, sleeby said: Do you not remember shady's invite for women to send him photos so that he might select who to party with when he arrives? Or watkins' tweet about the little people? Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly. Expand It shows you grow up in a different part of Buffalo than me. I think the term rust belt is insulting and I think every idiot who talked crap on twitter to Watkins is a little person. I love how a 23 year old football player has to be more mature than 40+ year old adults. On 10/12/2018 at 5:32 PM, CountDorkula said: Just curious what people thoughts are on Adam Theilen? Expand He works hard. Real student of the game. Plays the game the right way. Real gym rat. On 10/12/2018 at 5:26 PM, TheElectricCompany said: Who knows. The whole scenario is fantasyland. At the same time, what if you paired him up with Rodgers or Brees? It's reasonable to say that he'd be even better! As I said, he's trending toward the HOF. I think he'd be a top WR anywhere. It's not like the Giants are some amazing situation. They've had coaching, QB and talent issues for years. Expand Eli isn’t great but he gets the ball to his receivers. Receiver is most dependent position in football. ODJ would have lost his mind here and no one talk about him being a HOFer. 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 1:35 PM, DasNootz said: If Kanye West and TO had a love child, the result would be OBJ. Expand ...and a reality show on the Estrogen Network...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:29 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: The point is, you call them out man-to-man, in a team meeting, to their face. What good does it do fluffing up negative press? Expand None. I don't agree with it. They fined him and told him to shut it. 1
OrtonHearsaWho Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 4:57 PM, Needle said: He's had his incidents off the field. Some of which are being investigated currently. He's called out teammates in the media. He recorded his coach in the locker room and put it on social media. He's not a great guy by any means. Expand I'll take him over his QB any day of the week.
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:47 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: He works hard. Real student of the game. Plays the game the right way. Real gym rat. Expand Guy just cant take losing, love the emotion.........
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 4:52 PM, BarleyNY said: I am sure that’s true, but plenty of people would support that player wholeheartedly. And a bunch more of us would do as you said, but still be happy he was producing. Personally I’d be elated to take a Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson and/or OBJ on my team. Expand Talented for sure, not a lot of SBs between those guys though.
BillsFan130 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 4:55 PM, nucci said: I agree but wouldn't you have been pissed if you were playing last night and Manning couldn't get the ball to you? That's all I'm saying....I don't care that people are getting on me....I can just understand the frustration Expand Ya fair enough. It definitely has to be frustrating for him. I guess I’m saying I don’t feel bad for him as it was his decision to stay there long term. But nevertheless to your point, I can see why he’s frustrated 1
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 5:47 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: . ODJ would have lost his mind here and no one talk about him being a HOFer. Expand Again, it's all fantasyland scenarios, a "hypothesis contrary to fact" fallacy in the flesh. All we know for certain is that he blew out the record books for a few years and is on pace for another great season. HOF talent existed with OBJ since his rookie year, and the Giants didn't need to get super creative to unleash it.
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