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6 minutes ago, GG said:

Rogue elements inside the embassy killed him by mistake?  

 

M'kay

 

Remember the House of Saud is not unified and has been fighting its own internal war for over a year now. Could easily be rogue operators working to undermine MBS on behalf of another faction. 

 

Or, more likely, Iranians dumping it on MSB's door because he's an existential threat to Islamic fascism. 

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Remember the House of Saud is not unified and has been fighting its own internal war for over a year now. Could easily be rogue operators working to undermine MBS on behalf of another faction. 

 

Or, more likely, Iranians dumping it on MSB's door because he's an existential threat to Islamic fascism. 

 

That's a possibility, but why did it take so long for them to come up with this story

Posted
4 minutes ago, GG said:

 

That's a possibility, but why did it take so long for them to come up with this story

 

Don't know, which is why it's right to be suspicious of that story. 

 

There was a great scene in an otherwise forgettable adaptation of Sum of All Fears. Russia launches a chemical attack on Grozny, and Jack Ryan is convinced that the new Russian president didn't order the attack. The next beat, the Russian president goes on TV and takes credit for the attack before the whole world. The next scene they cut to the president in the elevator after the speech saying he didn't order the attack but it's better to look in control and strong - even if that means looking guilty - than to look as if he has no control over his military. 

 

If - and it is just that, an if - this wasn't done by MBS, he might have to take responsibility to avoid looking vulnerable. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Don't know, which is why it's right to be suspicious of that story. 

 

There was a great scene in an otherwise forgettable adaptation of Sum of All Fears. Russia launches a chemical attack on Grozny, and Jack Ryan is convinced that the new Russian president didn't order the attack. The next beat, the Russian president goes on TV and takes credit for the attack before the whole world. The next scene they cut to the president in the elevator after the speech saying he didn't order the attack but it's better to look in control and strong - even if that means looking guilty - than to look as if he has no control over his military. 

 

If - and it is just that, an if - this wasn't done by MBS, he might have to take responsibility to avoid looking vulnerable. 

 

Counterpoint: you just used a Ben Affleck character as a primary source.  You're an idiot.

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Posted
Breaking: CNN Reports Saudis Preparing to Admit Jamal Khashoggi Was Killed in ‘Interrogation Gone Wrong’
Mediaite, by Aidan McLaughlin

 

Original Article

 

I am interested to see if an actual News organization verifies this

Posted
44 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Breaking: CNN Reports Saudis Preparing to Admit Jamal Khashoggi Was Killed in ‘Interrogation Gone Wrong’
Mediaite, by Aidan McLaughlin

 

Original Article

 

I am interested to see if an actual News organization verifies this

They're parroting yesterday's WSJ

Posted
10 hours ago, joesixpack said:

A “journalist “ killed? I’m not losing any sleep over it.

Most Trump supporters are probably saying the same thing. But if our foreign policy has no moral basis anymore, what's the point of shoveling gobs and gobs of money into the military now? What's the point? What are we defending if its not the Democratic order in the world? 

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