whatdrought Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I liked Booker quite a bit more when he way mayor of Newark. Not so much as a Senator. Elections are so superficial now and I don't know if he has the right characteristics to take on Trump. When I say superficial, I'm not talking about looks per se. It's more about having the right mindset for the kind of street fight Trump presents. I could see Booker getting way too emotional and outraged when Trump does his thing. And I tend to think that while the moderate R's and I's you're speaking of may like a guy like Booker, I question what they'll actually do in the booth if Trump makes a fool of him on the trail. I'm sure Obama is not popular around these parts, but he was a damn good politician. I don't see any stars in this field. Dude... he’s Spartacus. Of course he can go toe to toe with Trump. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Rob's House said: I think you have to go with Cory Booker. Every moderate Republican and independent I know has said they would vote for him. They clearly have never heard him speak on any substantive issue. Because when he tries, he embarrasses himself. Booker will run. He will be an early out though in the primary. He'll get laughed out of the race and slaughtered by the dirty political machine already ramping up behind Harris (not to mention the unannounced dems who are going to run like Steyer). imo of course
LSHMEAB Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Crowly did more to help Obama than Obama did. The difference is that if Crowly does that to Trump, he takes her to task right then and there and the right eats it up. Instead, we got Crowly incorrectly correcting Romney and "binders full of women" and "Romney caused a woman to die of cancer" and "Romney hazed a kid in college by cutting his hair." That's how Obama won. You're kind of making my point about the superficiality of modern national elections. Talk about the moderator all you like, but Obama was stylistically the better performer and dismissive quips like "proceed governor" made him an extremely tough foe. The facts around Obama's rose garden comments became secondary. And make no mistake about it; Obama was a complete as*hole. He was every bit the as*hole Trump is. Just had a different approach. The way I see a candidate beating Trump stylistically is demonstrating zero emotion and subtly dismantling his more outrageous statements. I'm not saying any of these candidates have the ability to do that. And I agree that Trump would have never let a moderator punk him in that manner.
DC Tom Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, Rob's House said: I think you have to go with Cory Booker. Every moderate Republican and independent I know has said they would vote for him. Booker's a bloody moron. But Trump's already set the precedent for bloody morons in the White House, so why the hell not? (Side note: my phone tried to autocomplete "bloody morons in the White House" as "bloody morons in the Senate." :lol:)
Paulus Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, Rob's House said: I think you have to go with Cory Booker. Every moderate Republican and independent I know has said they would vote for him. Booker would get destroyed by Trump. The only people who stand a chance against him are Harris and Biden. I think the Dems will roll and fail with Harris, but will win in 2024 with Newsome...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Paulus said: Booker would get destroyed by Trump. The only people who stand a chance against him are Harris and Biden. I think the Dems will roll and fail with Harris, but will win in 2024 with Newsome... I know I'm dreaming, but I'm hoping Newsome loses in a few weeks...
IDBillzFan Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: I know I'm dreaming, but I'm hoping Newsome loses in a few weeks... It won't happen because the state won't let it. The Dems have busload after busload of votes coming in from illegals and corpses. It's her his time. 1
Alaska Darin Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I liked Booker quite a bit more when he way mayor of Newark. Not so much as a Senator. Because...
LSHMEAB Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Because... Because he freaking shoveled snow at 3 A.M. during a blizzard and was genuinely a man of the people. He did a lot of good things for that hellhole of a city. He lost me with the Spartacus grandstanding. Washington ruined him. Just so you know, I'm a socialist so we're naturally going to disagree regarding his policies as mayor.
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Just so you know, I'm a socialist so we're naturally going to disagree regarding his policies as mayor. You don't have to disagree. You could give it some consideration, and wind up coming towards a position which embraces human freedom, and acknowledges that man deserves to live free, rather than at the barrel of a gun being dictated to by Party Elites, and made slave to those who would empower themselves to steal simply because there are more of them. Edited October 17, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1
Paulus Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I know I'm dreaming, but I'm hoping Newsome loses in a few weeks... No, he has been being prepped for a Presidential run for years now. He is the left's version of maximum Republican hell. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: Crowly did more to help Obama than Obama did. The difference is that if Crowly does that to Trump, he takes her to task right then and there and the right eats it up. Instead, we got Crowly incorrectly correcting Romney and "binders full of women" and "Romney caused a woman to die of cancer" and "Romney hazed a kid in college by cutting his hair." That's how Obama won. Nawwww I'm going with voter fraud in that election. I will say that Mitt the Milktoast didn't energize or enthuse anyone, and the Candy Crowley "correction" that put Mitt off his game in that debate just confirmed to many how wimpy he really is (was).
Deranged Rhino Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Paulus said: No, he has been being prepped for a Presidential run for years now. He is the left's version of maximum Republican hell. I don't disagree. I live in CA and have been told of the mighty Newsome's prowess for years (by people asking for donations). He's a virtual lock to be the next governor, and if something unexpected did happen at the polls I wouldn't put it past the state to cry foul or otherwise intervene. He's got 2024 in his sights without a doubt. 1
Paulus Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I don't disagree. I live in CA and have been told of the mighty Newsome's prowess for years (by people asking for donations). He's a virtual lock to be the next governor, and if something unexpected did happen at the polls I wouldn't put it past the state to cry foul or otherwise intervene. He's got 2024 in his sights without a doubt. Ohh, so you know how much like Satan wet dream this whole Newsome thing is possibly going to be? Yeah, the guy is good and evil at the same time, haha.
Rob's House Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: They clearly have never heard him speak on any substantive issue. Because when he tries, he embarrasses himself. Booker will run. He will be an early out though in the primary. He'll get laughed out of the race and slaughtered by the dirty political machine already ramping up behind Harris (not to mention the unannounced dems who are going to run like Steyer). imo of course You guys are letting the cat out of the bag. It's been my dream to see Cory Booker run against Trump since I saw an over-educated 30-something virgin gush about what a great Presidential candidate he'd make, after his amateurish speech at the 2016 DNC. Is it sadistic on my part? Maybe. Would it be fun to watch? Absolutely. The only way it happens is if the Dems think he can win. That won't happen if we openly mock the guy for being a stooge. They have to think we fear or respect him. 1
Alaska Darin Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: He did a lot of good things for that hellhole of a city. Name 5.
LSHMEAB Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Name 5. Google is your friend. As a matter of fact, name 5 bad things he did to Newark WITHOUT using google. I don't play games. Edited October 18, 2018 by LSHMEAB
snafu Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Albwan said: She had her Howard Dean "yee haaa!" Moment, but at least he made it to the primaries before he went "poof" in a cloud of smoke. They're all going to do this, one by one.
Alaska Darin Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Google is your friend. As a matter of fact, name 5 bad things he did to Newark WITHOUT using google. I don't play games. You don’t get to do that here. You stated he “did a lot of good things for the city.” I’ve made no statements positive or negative. Either back up your statement with some examples or gtfooh.
IDBillzFan Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Google is your friend. As a matter of fact, name 5 bad things he did to Newark WITHOUT using google. I don't play games. Y'know, if you're going to hang out on a message board, the least you can do is show even the simplest understanding that blanket statements ("he did a lot of good things...") may require some supporting data. The laziest of posters will make such statements, and then respond with "look it up yourself," and that's fine, if you're 12. But if you're going to repeatedly explain you participate here in search of knowledge and sharing thoughts, but are too embarrassingly lazy to support a basic statement, then head over to DailyKos where that is the norm. If he did a lot of good things, naming 5 should be like listing ingredients for chicken soup. Try harder.
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