row_33 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I would like to announce that I am withdrawing my candidacy for President under the Democratic ticket in 2020, as I wore a Christopher Columbus costume for Halloween in 3rd grade. i was always The Devil, a total angel every other day of the year 19 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I love when Republicans tell Democrats who they need to run. With Republicans not repealing and replacing the ACA it leaves the door open for Democrats to run on a platform focusing heavily on improving healthcare costs like they successfully did at the midterms. I expect arguments over health care and ways to increase wages for the middle class to dominate the debates. Doc, it's the Dems telling Schulz (sp??) he BETTER NOT RUN!!!
IDBillzFan Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I would like to announce that I am withdrawing my candidacy for President under the Democratic ticket in 2020, as I wore a Christopher Columbus costume for Halloween in 3rd grade. I would like to announce that I am also withdrawing my candidacy under the Democratic 2020 ticket, as I attended a college Halloween party dressed as Frank N. Furter from Rocky Horror Picture Show. In hindsight I regret the cultural appropriation of a Canadian Prime Minister. 3
row_33 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: I would like to announce that I am also withdrawing my candidacy under the Democratic 2020 ticket, as I attended a college Halloween party dressed as Frank N. Furter from Rocky Horror Picture Show. In hindsight I regret the cultural appropriation of a Canadian Prime Minister. he was the progeny of an egghead dad in his 50s and a mindless hippie in her 20s. with a full ticket to gain easy admission to whatever educational stream he could wish for he wound up being a part time pre-high school drama teacher Edited February 7, 2019 by row_33
IDBillzFan Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: You make sense but this would fail to satisfy the most radical elements of the party which now dominate it. And, let's be honest. Look at the lunatics running NY, Cal. and now VA. Do you find these people to be centrist, or in any way normal? Not to mention, for years we were told by leftists that if the GOP were smart, it would have Gary Johnson run for president. Over and over and over.
row_33 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: You make sense but this would fail to satisfy the most radical elements of the party which now dominate it. And, let's be honest. Look at the lunatics running NY, Cal. and now VA. Do you find these people to be centrist, or in any way normal? VA is very disappointing, there's no way it's San Fran's clone.
Bill from NYC Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, LABillzFan said: Not to mention, for years we were told by leftists that if the GOP were smart, it would have Gary Johnson run for president. Over and over and over. Oh, the guy who wanted Jewish bakers arrested if they refused to sell cakes with pictures of Auschwitz? That Gary Johnson? 1 minute ago, row_33 said: VA is very disappointing, there's no way it's San Fran's clone. These people are extremely mentally ill. Seriously.
row_33 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: These people are extremely mentally ill. Seriously. i have enough bible belt associates and friends to believe they are honestly conservative in the state of VA they somehow keep electing Dems to run things who are so extreme it's beyond nightmare
Doc Brown Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: You make sense but this would fail to satisfy the most radical elements of the party which now dominate it. And, let's be honest. Look at the lunatics running NY, Cal. and now VA. Do you find these people to be centrist, or in any way normal? The Democrats tried telling Republicans the only way to win is to run a moderate Republican who caters to minorities and they nominated Trump. The ability of the candidate to sell their policies will win the nomination. I look at it from the perspective that even if it's somebody from the far left the direction of this country doesn't change that much when you have three branches of government. Obama was thought to be far left and the most radical thing he did in office was pass a centrist health care act modeled after Romneycare.
snafu Posted February 7, 2019 Author Posted February 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The Democrats tried telling Republicans the only way to win is to run a moderate Republican who caters to minorities and they nominated Trump. The ability of the candidate to sell their policies will win the nomination. I look at it from the perspective that even if it's somebody from the far left the direction of this country doesn't change that much when you have three branches of government. Obama was thought to be far left and the most radical thing he did in office was pass a centrist health care act modeled after Romneycare. I never thought of Obama as far left, but maybe I should have. I always thought he wanted to take the "centrist" marker and move it left, and left, and left again. I figured he knew that it would take more than 8 years to succeed, and that's why he was so caught up in his legacy. Clinton was supposed to keep moving the marker for him -- so 12 or 16 years would have set it in stone. What I got wrong was that it is an inevitable by-product to get the far left to ascend if the "middle" was the "left". It is also easy to get the "right" to now be labeled "far right", even though nobody moved an inch. The result is a terrible polarizing legacy. Did Obama intend that? Who knows. If he did then he's despicable. If he didn't then he's negligent and short-sighted. We're going to find out who really wants to be where Obama took us (political spectrum-wise). The 2016 election was more about Clinton being unelectable. This 2020 race, to me, is more about Obama's legacy. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 HuffPo. I won't go into how they never, ever, ever reported on Michelle Obama's high staff turnover (because she was the Wicked Witch of Washington), this is again, the first salvo to take this person out of the Democratic Presidential race, and get her donors behind the sacrificial lamb. What comes next? No idea. Sen. Amy Klobuchar’s Mistreatment Of Staff Scared Off Candidates To Manage Her Presidential Bid At least three people withdrew from consideration to lead the senator’s nascent campaign — in part because of Klobuchar’s history of mistreating her staff. </snip>
Bill from NYC Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, snafu said: I never thought of Obama as far left, but maybe I should have. I always thought he wanted to take the "centrist" marker and move it left, and left, and left again. I figured he knew that it would take more than 8 years to succeed, and that's why he was so caught up in his legacy. Clinton was supposed to keep moving the marker for him -- so 12 or 16 years would have set it in stone. What I got wrong was that it is an inevitable by-product to get the far left to ascend if the "middle" was the "left". It is also easy to get the "right" to now be labeled "far right", even though nobody moved an inch. The result is a terrible polarizing legacy. Did Obama intend that? Who knows. If he did then he's despicable. If he didn't then he's negligent and short-sighted. We're going to find out who really wants to be where Obama took us (political spectrum-wise). The 2016 election was more about Clinton being unelectable. This 2020 race, to me, is more about Obama's legacy. Very interesting take. I don't completely agree but you raise good points. What I think that you overlook in this post however is globalism. Trump is not on the "inside" with folks like Obama, Merkel, Hillary, etc. Neither is Putin and I believe this accounts for the BS Russian investigation. It is also a fact that a great many of Obama's elitist white voters went that way to prove to themselves and others that they are not racists. Many of them live in ultra rich, segregated neighborhoods and send their little darlings to segregated private schools, but; a vote for Obama eradicates all white guilt for many rich hypocrites. Edited February 8, 2019 by Bill from NYC 2
IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: HuffPo. I won't go into how they never, ever, ever reported on Michelle Obama's high staff turnover (because she was the Wicked Witch of Washington), this is again, the first salvo to take this person out of the Democratic Presidential race, and get her donors behind the sacrificial lamb. What comes next? No idea. Sen. Amy Klobuchar’s Mistreatment Of Staff Scared Off Candidates To Manage Her Presidential Bid At least three people withdrew from consideration to lead the senator’s nascent campaign — in part because of Klobuchar’s history of mistreating her staff. </snip> This part of the story blows me away. Quote What is indisputable, however, is that Klobuchar’s office consistently has one of the highest rates of staff turnover in the Senate. Klobuchar’s rate of turnover ranked No. 1 in an analysis of all Senate staff salaries between 2001 and 2016, conducted by LegiStorm, a widely used database of congressional staff salaries. Someone needs an intervention.
keepthefaith Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, snafu said: I never thought of Obama as far left, but maybe I should have. I always thought he wanted to take the "centrist" marker and move it left, and left, and left again. I figured he knew that it would take more than 8 years to succeed, and that's why he was so caught up in his legacy. Clinton was supposed to keep moving the marker for him -- so 12 or 16 years would have set it in stone. What I got wrong was that it is an inevitable by-product to get the far left to ascend if the "middle" was the "left". It is also easy to get the "right" to now be labeled "far right", even though nobody moved an inch. The result is a terrible polarizing legacy. Did Obama intend that? Who knows. If he did then he's despicable. If he didn't then he's negligent and short-sighted. We're going to find out who really wants to be where Obama took us (political spectrum-wise). The 2016 election was more about Clinton being unelectable. This 2020 race, to me, is more about Obama's legacy. Obama individually was/is very far left. What would he have done if not shackled by a Republican House and Senate? What does he believe in? He believes in financial reparations today for African Americans due to slavery. He has said so in his own words. He believes in redistribution through more paid entitlements for low income people (free healthcare, child care and others). He believes in much higher taxation on the rich even to the point of limiting the worth of the rich. He believes in open borders or nearly open borders. He harbors bitter feelings of white colonialism and the white power structure around the world. He is very anti-business especially toward large corporations. He cares little about fiscal discipline. He has criticized our constitution as one that fails to guarantee economic rights for the people. He is without a doubt the most left President we ever had in terms of his political ideology. He did seem to recognize that there were limits of Presidential power and what he could get done in 8 years and had to settle for only moving the needle so far left. The 2010 and 2016 elections will go down as some of the most important in the history of the country. Edited February 8, 2019 by keepthefaith 1
reddogblitz Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, keepthefaith said: He (Obama) believes in open borders or nearly open borders. Obama deported 2,500,000 people in 8 years. That's over 800 per day every day for 8 years. More than W and more than all of the presidents of the 20th century combined. I'm fact, Human Rights groups refer to him as the Deporter-in-Chief. https://www.blackagendareport.com/obama_legacy_deporter_in_chief https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/national-council-of-la-raza-janet-murguia-barack-obama-deporter-in-chief-immigration-104217
DC Tom Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Obama deported 2,500,000 people in 8 years. That's over 800 per day every day for 8 years. More than W and more than all of the presidents of the 20th century combined. I'm fact, Human Rights groups refer to him as the Deporter-in-Chief. https://www.blackagendareport.com/obama_legacy_deporter_in_chief https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/national-council-of-la-raza-janet-murguia-barack-obama-deporter-in-chief-immigration-104217 And how do that many people end up in the country without open borders?
keepthefaith Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Obama deported 2,500,000 people in 8 years. That's over 800 per day every day for 8 years. More than W and more than all of the presidents of the 20th century combined. I'm fact, Human Rights groups refer to him as the Deporter-in-Chief. https://www.blackagendareport.com/obama_legacy_deporter_in_chief https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/national-council-of-la-raza-janet-murguia-barack-obama-deporter-in-chief-immigration-104217 The definition of deportation was changed to include people turned around from the U.S. near the border. That ballooned the numbers. That's been widely reported. Obama also had his homeland security team process many illegal immigrants through certain checkpoints and then had them moved into the interior of the country by buses and planes. He also funded churches and other groups to support these newly arrived people. He made a decision to do that which is in stark contrast to Trump.
B-Man Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Joe Biden once said Democrats needed ´a liberal George Wallace´ Washington Examiner, by Alana Goodman Original Article No Democratic candidate yet has matched Trump´s ´MAGA´ New York Post, by Maureen Callahan Original Article .
Deranged Rhino Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 (20m+ dead Russians might have something to say about Booker's reductionist WW2 history) 1
keepthefaith Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: (20m+ dead Russians might have something to say about Booker's reductionist WW2 history) More misdirected passion. 1
IDBillzFan Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 I don't know about you guys, but Frau Blucher is really starting to grow on me. It looks like it's time to make a donation to her 2020 run. Yes, she can! Yes, she can! (Degrade and humiliate you while making you pick up her clothes, sort her socks, and STFU unless spoken to!)d Hey Frau Blucher, when the Dems talk about keeping people on the plantation, it doesn't mean you get to treat them like crap, you vile pig.
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