B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Explodes On Democrats Over Socialism: ‘It Doesn’t Frickin Work!’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/msnbcs-chris-matthews-explodes-on-democrats-over-socialism-it-doesnt-frickin-work . 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Explodes On Democrats Over Socialism: ‘It Doesn’t Frickin Work!’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/msnbcs-chris-matthews-explodes-on-democrats-over-socialism-it-doesnt-frickin-work . ....sorry, but I have to wait for "Fredo" to give me the "straight scoop"....................
Deranged Rhino Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: At this point Bernie seems like he should win the nomination. Warren is fading and he should pick up all of her followers once she drops out. At that point he'd have around 45% support among democrats and that would be nearly impossible to defeat. The Trump vs Bernie election would be great. Both cater to populist movements and will cater to the same type of swing voters. That would be the case if the DNC wasn’t crooked. They don’t want Bernie to win and will see to it you get Mayor Pete instead.
jrober38 Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It would be interesting to see the reaction of dems to a candidate who actually has ties to Russia and espouses the ideals of the communist party. The current system has left the middle class behind over 50 years. Incomes for the middle class haven't grown in any meaningful way over that period. Taxing the rich to give to the less wealthy isn't a radical idea. It works successfully in many countries. 1
IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 34 minutes ago, B-Man said: MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Explodes On Democrats Over Socialism: ‘It Doesn’t Frickin Work!’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/msnbcs-chris-matthews-explodes-on-democrats-over-socialism-it-doesnt-frickin-work. I couldn't tell if Matthews was being sincere or helping the Dems kneecap Bernie. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, jrober38 said: The current system has left the middle class behind over 50 years. Incomes for the middle class haven't grown in any meaningful way over that period. Taxing the rich to give to the less wealthy isn't a radical idea. It works successfully in many countries. Name one.
IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Name one. Venezuela! 3 1
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 "Democrats... want the race narrative to be 1619, America to be eternally damned as a foundationally racist country. Trump’s position, in contrast..." "... raises everyone up: 'From the pilgrims to our Founders, from the soldiers at Valley Forge to the marchers at Selma, and from President Lincoln to the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Americans have always rejected limits on our children’s future.' 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: The current system has left the middle class behind over 50 years. Incomes for the middle class haven't grown in any meaningful way over that period. Taxing the rich to give to the less wealthy isn't a radical idea. It works successfully in many countries. Hogwash. The left is perfectly comfortable with a permanently entrenched class of Americans, and design programs to perpetuate intergenerational poverty. Unfortunately, there are many, many Americans and non-Americans willing to apply for the job. A safety net is necessary, it cannot be the size of Australia. 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Name one. Other than Narnia, I'm stumped. 3
keepthefaith Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: The current system has left the middle class behind over 50 years. Incomes for the middle class haven't grown in any meaningful way over that period. Taxing the rich to give to the less wealthy isn't a radical idea. It works successfully in many countries. Well, your "statistic" simply isn't correct and how is "middle class" defined? The top 40% of wage earners over the past 50 years after adjustment for inflation have had significant wage growth and the middle quintile itself has seen on the order of a 40% increase (after inflation adjustment) over the past 50 years. That's 60% of wage earners whose income has risen significantly over that time again adjusted for inflation. And who are the hardest working people, the higher wage earners or the lower wager earners? Without a doubt higher wage earners are the hardest working people which I would define by their hours worked, their responsibilities and their commitment to improving their skills over time. The rich have mostly earned it. https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2019/11/26/u-s-household-incomes-a-50-year-perspective On what basis should the top earners who are already taxed significantly more than the bottom earners (with very few exceptions) be asked to pay even more and even further support those who are often less committed to their own work. On what basis should the top earners be required to further fund very fiscally irresponsible governments? Is there any more tired policy than to tax the most productive more and spend more on the others? That is a tired and lazy as hell policy.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Name one. ...LMAO.....he can't....he's as effective here at PPP as he is on the football side....trait carried over from his BBB days....SMH...........
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 Amy Klobuchar/Mayor Pete ticket? Checks several boxes: Female, check. Gay, check. Not saying that ticket would win, but it would be more reasonable than Bernie or Joey-B as the candidate. 1
reddogblitz Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Amy Klobuchar/Mayor Pete ticket? Checks several boxes: Female, check. Gay, check. Not saying that ticket would win, but it would be more reasonable than Bernie or Joey-B as the candidate. Kamala Harris checks more boxes.
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Kamala Harris checks more boxes. She's even more unlikable than Hillary though. And she didn't last even with the remains of the Clinton-machine behind her. Maybe the governor of Georgia... Stacey Abrams? ?
3rdnlng Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Kamala Harris checks more boxes. I've never heard that. I thought she was only into men. 2
Teddy KGB Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, jrober38 said: The current system has left the middle class behind over 50 years. Incomes for the middle class haven't grown in any meaningful way over that period. Taxing the rich to give to the less wealthy isn't a radical idea. It works successfully in many countries. someone send this guy 20k a year to stfu he deserves it or something Edited February 9, 2020 by Teddy KGB 1
3rdnlng Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: someone send this guy 20k a year to stfu he deserves it or something Maybe you can give him a job on your crew. He can help you with union organization.
Nanker Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 On the other end of the spectrum, Mayor Bloomberg is paying very hard to play H. Ross Perot to President Trump's G. H. W. Bush. Trouble for him is, this POTUS is no GHW sissy boy. I don't see the radical left getting behind the billionaire Mayor, and they're the most energized group in the Democrat party. I think a lot of more centrist Dems will be turned off by his buying the nomination and might not support him at the polls. If one of the radicals gets the nod, does he end up running as an Independent? That would ensure a second Trump victory. The Dems are marching as a mob toward a brokered convention. It's like it's 1968 all over again.
Foxx Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Amy Klobuchar/Mayor Pete ticket? Checks several boxes: Female, check. Gay, check. Not saying that ticket would win, but it would be more reasonable than Bernie or Joey-B as the candidate. i wonder how a Bernie/Tulsi looks to the socialist base. i think that would check a number of boxes.
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