B-Man Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Democratic Presidential Clown Car Update. “Biden and Warren tie in Iowa, another debate looms, Harris continues to plummet, LBGTCrazy, indestructible Bernie is back on his feet, Yang is the new Ron Paul, and Beto is coming after your church.” .
Hedge Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 I wonder who the Young Turks really want to win, because this will do more harm than good to Bernie. If any of the Leftists were sane they would disavow these endorsements. But they aren't. So, it will be fun to see who gets shackled to these loons as the field thins. 1
Doc Brown Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Hedge said: I wonder who the Young Turks really want to win, because this will do more harm than good to Bernie. If any of the Leftists were sane they would disavow these endorsements. But they aren't. So, it will be fun to see who gets shackled to these loons as the field thins. I don't know who the Young Turks are but endorsing Bernie gives the moderates the ability to distance themselves from them. I only watched bits and pieces of the debate but Bernie looked more energetic and with it than Biden despite just having a heart attack. Harris had the worst debate moment pathetically challenging Warren make a stand with her to bravely say Trump should be banned from twitter for apparently violating the terms of service? Warren had that "is this chick serious" look on her face. 1
3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Bye, Joe. Add them all up and they're not even in Trump's neighborhood. 2
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Bye, Joe. It's possible. Not the absolute you claim it is. I still think he ends up the nominee. Warren didn't handle herself very well tonight as the "frontrunner" and Sanders just had a heart attack. I really and truly want Mayor Pete, but he's still a longshot. Don't get the obsession with fundraising unless there are consistently wild discrepancies. This is getting kinda funny how enamored you are with Biden. You resemble the Never-Trumpers in 2015-2016. If Biden wins the nomination, will you follow their paths? PS: Since you seem to care and it relates to our bet... 3rd Quarter Fundraising Donald Trump = $125 million Democrats = $135+ million 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Add them all up and they're not even in Trump's neighborhood. $135+ million for ALL Democratic candidates. Yeah... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Add them all up and they're not even in Trump's neighborhood. Individuals looking to donate to a D candidate could be holding back their donations until a clear nominee emerges, or at least until the race is down to the final three or five participants. 1
3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's possible. Not the absolute you claim it is. I still think he ends up the nominee. Warren didn't handle herself very well tonight as the "frontrunner" and Sanders just had a heart attack. I really and truly want Mayor Pete, but he's still a longshot. Don't get the obsession with fundraising unless there are consistently wild discrepancies. This is getting kinda funny how enamored you are with Biden. You resemble the Never-Trumpers in 2015-2016. If Biden wins the nomination, will you follow their paths? PS: Since you seem to care and it relates to our bet... 3rd Quarter Fundraising Donald Trump = $125 million Democrats = $135+ million $135+ million for ALL Democratic candidates. Yeah... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm Now that's not what I stated, is it? I know you have several of your second graders already with scholarships to Harvard but you might want to get them tutors in the pesky mathy things.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Now that's not what I stated, is it? I know you have several of your second graders already with scholarships to Harvard but you might want to get them tutors in the pesky mathy things. I know exactly what you stated, that's why I was very careful to put "all" in all caps so the evidently illiterate you would understand that the most important point here is that there is more Democratic enthusiasm than Republican enthusiasm... assuming of course that you measure it by fundraising, which is what you folks over here seem to do... errr... I guess... if you want to measure it by polling.... well... Dems have it there, too... Awwwww shux 19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Individuals looking to donate to a D candidate could be holding back their donations until a clear nominee emerges, or at least until the race is down to the final three or five participants. What I would guess. And then there are those like me who have never given a cent to a political candidate but already knows it's Anybody But Trump, prepared to get behind whoever the Democratic nominee is. Edited October 16, 2019 by transplantbillsfan
3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Transplant, I compared Trump's fundraising to 4 of your potential candidates. You "refuted" my statement with comparing it with 12 candidates. Being a lunch monitor must have put you in a bad mood.
Doc Brown Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Individuals looking to donate to a D candidate could be holding back their donations until a clear nominee emerges, or at least until the race is down to the final three or five participants. That's usually how it goes. It used to be the incumbent had the advantage because they could spend the money for advertising during the fall and summer before the opposing parties convention. Things have changed though as it's much easier to get free advertising that Trump used to his advantage in 2016 despite being outspent by Hillary 2 to 1. Massive fundraising advantages are more important at the local level.
Albwan Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's possible. Not the absolute you claim it is. I still think he ends up the nominee. Warren didn't handle herself very well tonight as the "frontrunner" and Sanders just had a heart attack. I really and truly want Mayor Pete, but he's still a longshot. Don't get the obsession with fundraising unless there are consistently wild discrepancies. This is getting kinda funny how enamored you are with Biden. You resemble the Never-Trumpers in 2015-2016. If Biden wins the nomination, will you follow their paths? PS: Since you seem to care and it relates to our bet... 3rd Quarter Fundraising Donald Trump = $125 million Democrats = $135+ million $135+ million for ALL Democratic candidates. Yeah... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm Enamored? Lol ... the dude is hilarious and so cartoonish. Homer Simpson hilarious. Say what you guys want about Trump, my god so many democrat politicians are flat out awful.
Foxx Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: ... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm yep, keep believing what the propagandists throw at you. 2 1
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Foxx said: yep, keep believing what the propagandists throw at you. That was based on the presumption you guys here make that fundraising equals enthusiasm. Dems are raising more--which is a FACT, not propoganda--so they must have more enthusiasm according to you folks. Edited October 16, 2019 by transplantbillsfan
Boatdrinks Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I know exactly what you stated, that's why I was very careful to put "all" in all caps so the evidently illiterate you would understand that the most important point here is that there is more Democratic enthusiasm than Republican enthusiasm... assuming of course that you measure it by fundraising, which is what you folks over here seem to do... errr... I guess... if you want to measure it by polling.... well... Dems have it there, too... Awwwww shux What I would guess. And then there are those like me who have never given a cent to a political candidate but already knows it's Anybody But Trump, prepared to get behind whoever the Democratic nominee is. Sorry, but the Dems haven’t shown they have ideas that can win a general election. As for your “ favorite” , I don’t believe you’ll see an openly gay man win the White House any time soon. Right now, unless some other candidate emerges it looks to me as though a second Trump term is about 80% likely.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: That was based on the presumption you guys here make that fundraising equals enthusiasm. Dems are raising more--which is a FACT, not propoganda--so they must have more enthusiasm according to you folks. It's not a fact though, Transplant. Trump has a much bigger war chest to date, the DNC is near broke while the GOP is swimming in funds. But more importantly, the Trump campaign has a huge lead in the digital information collection than the DNC thanks to three years of rally and data harvesting. The DNC is going to get thumped in 2020. And they have no one but themselves to blame. They've had three years to do something, anything, other than protesting an election they lost fair and square. But instead of doing their jobs, they doubled down on resistance. It'll cost them the House and the Oval.
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's not a fact though, Transplant. Trump has a much bigger war chest to date, the DNC is near broke while the GOP is swimming in funds. But more importantly, the Trump campaign has a huge lead in the digital information collection than the DNC thanks to three years of rally and data harvesting. The DNC is going to get thumped in 2020. And they have no one but themselves to blame. They've had three years to do something, anything, other than protesting an election they lost fair and square. But instead of doing their jobs, they doubled down on resistance. It'll cost them the House and the Oval. The DNC's fund-raising is not directly comparable to the Trump campaign's. Because one's a party, and one's a campaign, and things that are different are not the same.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: The DNC's fund-raising is not directly comparable to the Trump campaign's. Because one's a party, and one's a campaign, and things that are different are not the same. But the fact the DNC itself is broke is a HUGE factor.
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: But the fact the DNC itself is broke is a HUGE factor. The fact that they've brought in $7m, and are $8m in debt, compared to the RNC's $40m take and $50m cash-on-hand is huge. The DNC's going to end up having to sell themselves to Hillary again, with the same down-ballot implications as in 2016. 2
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