snafu Posted October 11, 2018 Author Posted October 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Nanker said: Great topic. What I recommend they do is be forthright and honest and have their primary between an ass, a skunk, a worm, a snake, and a badger. I'd go with the badger every time. 1 1
reddogblitz Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: It'll be a big field: Definitely Running Clinton (will run again if not otherwise occupied) Sanders (will run again - can't win) Harris (leader out the gate - likely to get the nom or be the VP of an outsider) Booker (won't win, will be laughed out of the race) Warren (won't win, earlier than most expect exit) Avanatti (won't win, early exit) Cuomo (won't win) Bloomberg (won't win) Chris Murphy (won't win, early exit) Holder (won't win, might be otherwise occupied) Gillibrand (won't win, early exit) Biden (won't win, might be otherwise occupied) Patrick from Mass (won't win, early exit) Landrieu (won't win, early exit) Outside shot: Iger (can't win national, might win nom) no Kennedy?
snafu Posted October 11, 2018 Author Posted October 11, 2018 I wonder if the party will retain superdelegates, and if so, how they will break. Clinton had them all in the bag in 2016, making Sanders' improbable run nearly meaningless.
boyst Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Whoever it ends up being, they are a sacrificial lamb ala Bob Dole. I do not think this is a Bill Clinton case (where Bush's popularity collapsed after being a record high, and a semi-reasonable third-party candidate showed up to split the vote). I very easily see a 3rd party candidate making a major push; not sure any conservative has the audacity to do so. But, pray that someone like Bernie Sanders enters the race as a 3rd party candidate.
Tiberius Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, snafu said: I wonder if the party will retain superdelegates, and if so, how they will break. Clinton had them all in the bag in 2016, making Sanders' improbable run nearly meaningless. The superdelegates did not matter that much
Rob's House Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, RochesterRob said: A high profile office is necessary in my mind for Chelsea to be taken seriously by most Dems as a POTUS nominee. The problem is her reputation is that she is dumb as a box of rocks and lacks the Clinton cunning so I have issues that she could beat a somewhat proficient opponent. Hillary never was that cunning and neither was Webb Hubbell.
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I very easily see a 3rd party candidate making a major push; not sure any conservative has the audacity to do so. But, pray that someone like Bernie Sanders enters the race as a 3rd party candidate. Well if Bernie runs third-party that makes the D even more of a sacrificial lamb, not less of one. I cannot believe a man that is 77 and looks 97 has a young-following. I've always scratched my head over that. Sure student loans, but he's as old as their grandfather... no great-grandfather, so ?♀️
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 49 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: no Kennedy? Probably will feel it out, could make a run.
Doc Brown Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Magox said: If Bernie were to win it he'd probably choose Kamala Harris to be his running mate. Or Eric Holder. He would need African American turnout to be pretty high and crazy uncle Bernie doesnt jazz up that part of the electorate. It wouldn't surprise me if it was Spike Lee in today's political environment.
reddogblitz Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Probably will feel it out, could make a run. You also didn't mention Inslee.
keepthefaith Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: It'll be a big field: Definitely Running Clinton (will run again if not otherwise occupied) Sanders (will run again - can't win) Harris (leader out the gate - likely to get the nom or be the VP of an outsider) Booker (won't win, will be laughed out of the race) Warren (won't win, earlier than most expect exit) Avanatti (won't win, early exit) Cuomo (won't win) Bloomberg (won't win) Chris Murphy (won't win, early exit) Holder (won't win, might be otherwise occupied) Gillibrand (won't win, early exit) Biden (won't win, might be otherwise occupied) Patrick from Mass (won't win, early exit) Landrieu (won't win, early exit) Outside shot: Iger (can't win national, might win nom) You need to be careful what you post. Your credibility 'round these parts is pretty damn high so when you top your list with Hillary, it's almost a guarantee and that is a ghastly thought. Let's hope the whole list runs. The primary season will be a food fight for the ages. 1
RochesterRob Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: You need to be careful what you post. Your credibility 'round these parts is pretty damn high so when you top your list with Hillary, it's almost a guarantee and that is a ghastly thought. Let's hope the whole list runs. The primary season will be a food fight for the ages. It would be nice if "otherwise occupied" meant prison for Hillary but I think that fire has just about died out. 1
Koko78 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Biden or Booker is my guess. Eh, I'd say Biden or Lieawatha. Booker is going to be exposed as a colossal dumbass during debates. Especially if anyone pushes him on his fake Spartacus nonsense. I'm hoping for Uncle Joe. The human gaffe machine vs. The cheeto-dust golem will be fantastic television.
/dev/null Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: Some Dems are starting to hype up our former governor and Clinton pal Terry McCauliffe as a 2020 contender. He's got quite a few scandals surrounding him, going back to Global Crossing, but like the Clinton's always seems to come away without anyone challenging him on anything. He's always struck me as an amiable dunce who keeps lucking into one situation after another then escaping it before it starts to stink. If the media gets behind him who knows. McCauliffe always struck me as a sleazy career political insider 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: I very easily see a 3rd party candidate making a major push; not sure any conservative has the audacity to do so. But, pray that someone like Bernie Sanders enters the race as a 3rd party candidate. 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Well if Bernie runs third-party that makes the D even more of a sacrificial lamb, not less of one. If there's a 3rd party challenge, it will come from Nanny Bloomberg 8 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Neither would align themselves to Sanders. They would want their own identity and wait until 2024 when there is a clear field. There is almost no way Trump doesn't win 2020. A year ago I'd be displeased and almost scared by that fact. Now, it's abundantly clear that not only have the Democrats lost their way but Trump is doing fairly well and at this point has earned reelection. Can't wait until Trump conspired with Eritrea allegations begin don't be so sure of Trump and the Republicans ability to not shoot themselves in the foot sometime in the next 25 months
boyst Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 I could see McAuliffe making a good run as a VP candidate if the whole house of Clinton doesn't come crashing down. He is the ideal Democrat.
Rob's House Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Well if Bernie runs third-party that makes the D even more of a sacrificial lamb, not less of one. I cannot believe a man that is 77 and looks 97 has a young-following. I've always scratched my head over that. Sure student loans, but he's as old as their grandfather... no great-grandfather, so ?♀️ He appeals to young people who are want to feel unique and independent. Interestingly, his primary draw, at least for a large portion of them, isn't ideological. It's just that he's outside the mainstream. There is a considerable amount of overlap between those who support him and those who support Ron Paul, even though their core political philosophies are diametrically opposed to each other. Also, young people tend to be passionate, uninformed, and idealistic, which is very fertile ground for socialists. 2 hours ago, Koko78 said: Eh, I'd say Biden or Lieawatha. Booker is going to be exposed as a colossal dumbass during debates. Especially if anyone pushes him on his fake Spartacus nonsense. I'm hoping for Uncle Joe. The human gaffe machine vs. The cheeto-dust golem will be fantastic television. I wish there was a way to get all conservatives to go around telling every liberal they know things like "I would vote for a Democrat if they nominated someone who's moderate and reasonable, like Cory Booker." It would be the most entertaining Presidential race ever. Spartacus 2020!!! Edited October 11, 2018 by Rob's House
The_Dude Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Koko78 said: Eh, I'd say Biden or Lieawatha. Booker is going to be exposed as a colossal dumbass during debates. Especially if anyone pushes him on his fake Spartacus nonsense. I'm hoping for Uncle Joe. The human gaffe machine vs. The cheeto-dust golem will be fantastic television. Who doesn’t love Biden memes?! Creepy Uncle Joe!
snafu Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, /dev/null said: McCauliffe always struck me as a sleazy career political insider If there's a 3rd party challenge, it will come from Nanny Bloomberg don't be so sure of Trump and the Republicans ability to not shoot themselves in the foot sometime in the next 25 months You got that right. I can even see the republicans do everything right (barely) and also see the economy cycle down, setting up a 2020 battle. Edited October 12, 2018 by snafu
DC Tom Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 5 hours ago, /dev/null said: don't be so sure of Trump and the Republicans ability to not shoot themselves in the foot sometime in the next 25 months It's not that, as much as no matter what the Republicans do, I can't imagine the Democrats responding with anything other than "Hold my beer..."
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