Democratic 2020 Presidential Primary Thread

[Hedge]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Some 2020 Dems have turned the Iowa Steak Fry into some sort of progressive dance-off [video]

 

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I will see your Kamala and raise you a Klobuchar:

 

 

[John Adams]

So is it your new contention that some intel agencies concluded that Russia did not take steps to interfere in our election?

 

I didn’t think so. 

 

He won. Russia helped his cause. He’d almost certainly have won without their help. He didn’t collude. All these things can be true. It’s OK to admit #2. You can do it!

 

 

[Teddy KGB]

1 hour ago, John Adams said:

So is it your new contention that some intel agencies concluded that Russia did not take steps to interfere in our election?

 

I didn’t think so. 

 

He won. Russia helped his cause. He’d almost certainly have won without their help. He didn’t collude. All these things can be true. It’s OK to admit #2. You can do it!

 

 

 

Looks like the laundromat has a new employee ????

[Deranged Rhino]

5 hours ago, John Adams said:

So is it your new contention that some intel agencies concluded that Russia did not take steps to interfere in our election?

 

 

No. My contention is that you passed off a lie that was debunked three years ago as fact — not because you’re dishonest but because you still haven’t bothered to do the work yourself on this topic. 

 

Thats not a new contention. You being uninformed and passing off IC lies as truth without knowing you’re being deceived is what you’ve been doing for a long long long LONG time.

[John Adams]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

No. My contention is that you passed off a lie that was debunked three years ago as fact — not because you’re dishonest but because you still haven’t bothered to do the work yourself on this topic. 

 

Thats not a new contention. You being uninformed and passing off IC lies as truth without knowing you’re being deceived is what you’ve been doing for a long long long LONG time.

Even your superhero Trump agreed that Russia tried to influence the election, but you can't admit that the IC report conclusion below was 100% right:

 

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Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

 

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. 

 

 

The IC can have bad actors and the report's conclusions can still be right. You can't keep human duality in your head. The world isn't made of black and white heroes. Only your fiction writing gets to live in such an easy world. 

 

Russia worked to influence our election. Trump didn't collude. Both can be right. 

[3rdnlng]

Let there be no doubt that Russia fvcked with our elections and certainly the aftermath of the elections. Their goal was to denigrate Hillary when it looked like she would win and then denigrate Trump after he won. Even though they hated Hillary they sort of knew what they were getting with her. They didn't know what they were getting with Trump. Their ultimate goals were to get us fighting with each other and doubting the validity of the election, which they have far exceeded.  The democrats and media are willingly playing the useful fool for the Russians.

Edited September 23, 2019 by 3rdnlng

[John Adams]

8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Let there be no doubt that Russia fvcked with our elections and certainly the aftermath of the elections. There goal was to denigrate Hillary when it looked like she would win and then denigrate Trump after he won. Even though they hated Hillary they sort of knew what they were getting with her. They didn't know what they were getting with Trump. Their ultimate goals were to get us fighting with each other and doubting the validity of the election, which they have far exceeded.  The democrats and media are willingly playing the useful fool for the Russians.

Your last sentence is incomplete. Not that you would admit it, but the Dems have a dance partner. 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, John Adams said:

Your last sentence is incomplete. Not that you would admit it, but the Dems have a dance partner. 

Yes, the media.

Edited September 22, 2019 by 3rdnlng

[Deranged Rhino]

57 minutes ago, John Adams said:

Even your superhero Trump agreed that Russia tried to influence the election, but you can't admit that the IC report conclusion below was 100% right:

 

You’re dodging. 

 

And everyone sees it. You stated all 17 intel agencies agreed in the ICA. That was false. 

 

You were wrong. Again. Full stop. 

[John Adams]

I quoted the report. You ignore the actual quote. Dodge and weave brother. 

[Q-baby!]

7 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You’re dodging. 

 

And everyone sees it. You stated all 17 intel agencies agreed in the ICA. That was false. 

 

You were wrong. Again. Full stop. 

Still no friends......sad for you. 

[B-Man]

Now Bernie Sanders Wants to Cancel America’s Medical Care Debt

 

 

 Elizabeth Warren makes unsupported claims about Trump and foreign governments part of her stump speech

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

SHE’S AWFUL: Elizabeth Warren’s plan to slash your retirement funds

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

4 hours ago, John Adams said:

I quoted the report.

 

But you didn't:

 

On 9/21/2019 at 7:02 PM, John Adams said:

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

The report does not say this. Never said it. The media said it said it, but the report did not. Hence the retractions (7 months after the hook had been set in the minds of the public -- a hook so deep that you still keep parroting it even though you've been shown several times now how it's not correct). 

[John Adams]

8 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

But you didn't:

 

 

The report does not say this. Never said it. The media said it said it, but the report did not. Hence the retractions (7 months after the hook had been set in the minds of the public -- a hook so deep that you still keep parroting it even though you've been shown several times now how it's not correct). 

 

I quoted the report. It said unequivocally that Russia interfered in our election. That's never been retracted. Not by anyone. 

 

Get out of the conspiracy mindset. Russia did interfere. Can you admit that without saying Obama, Comey, Strzok, Deep State?

[Tiberius]

Trump is literally cancelling elections. 

 

Just saying there will be no primary elections in many states. That's right out of Putin playbook. Simply don't let the voters vote. 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is literally cancelling elections. 

 

Just saying there will be no primary elections in many states. That's right out of Putin playbook. Simply don't let the voters vote. 

 

 

Yawn. Enough with the Putin references already. That was so 2016.

[B-Man]

 

 

 Revolt Against Moderate Democrats Helps Trump. 

 

“Democrats seem determined to hurtle left, right over the cliff.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yawn. Enough with the Putin references already. That was so 2016.

Cancelled elections is now, he is refusing to allow voting in many states. So corrupt, so Putin like 

[3rdnlng]

40 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Cancelled elections is now, he is refusing to allow voting in many states. So corrupt, so Putin like 

Please post links showing Trump cancelled elections.