BeginnersMind Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Tim Ryan has a better shot at picking up votes in Western PA. Steve Bullock isn't bat schitt crazy (or at least hasn't gone BSC yet), which plays well in the rust belt. Biden's "political ties" to PA could haunt him as it paints him as a career politician Gotta remember that PA isn't a single political culture. Philly is an East Coast city. Pittsburgh and Erie are midwest. Pennsyltucky is, well Pennsyltucky. Agree that as goes PA, so goes the Electoral College I am dismissing the 1% crew as having no shot but I agree that they and others still officially in the race could win PA. PA could only be won by a moderate Dem and they are in short supply and to BGal’s point, attacking coal and fracking at the debate is not to Joe’s advantage. Still, of the candidates likely to win the D nomination, Biden gives them the best shot at it. Edited August 2, 2019 by BeginnersMind 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: "unrelated to her campaign" uh huh, suuuuurrrrre 3
BeginnersMind Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Freely available data that can be requested and published by anyone is ... Orwellian? I wonder what Fox news update turned Trump and you onto this silliness.
B-Man Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Bill de Blasio makes fliers wait on tarmac so he can rush to ‘The View’ by Julia Marsh Original Article Mayor Bill de Blasio made Delta passengers wait in their seats on the tarmac at LaGuardia Airport for 10 minutes Thursday after flying back from his less-than-stellar performance in the Detroit debate — so that he and his security detail could deplane first. But it wasn’t a pressing matter related to City Hall or the potential firing of Eric Garner chokehold cop Daniel Pantaleo that necessitated the inconvenience to his fellow passengers — de Blasio had to rush off to tape an appearance on ABC’s “The View.” And passengers on Flight 788 were not pleased. .
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Freely available data that can be requested and published by anyone is ... Orwellian? I wonder what Fox news update turned Trump and you onto this silliness. How quickly can you get a FOIA fulfilled vs searching a website? 1 1
B-Man Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: How quickly can you get a FOIA fulfilled vs searching a website? Hey now.....................................none of that common sense ! It just confuses Leftists. . 2
BeginnersMind Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: How quickly can you get a FOIA fulfilled vs searching a website? Love that you got thumbs up on this. You can request the data. You don’t need to file a FOIA request. Or maybe requiring sending an email request is Orwellian. 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: Hey now.....................................none of that common sense ! It just confuses Leftists. . You should file a FOIA request. I’ll just do this. “Callison added that the documents are still available upon request via email to data.requests@cdcr.ca.gov.”
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said: Love that you got thumbs up on this. You can request the data. You don’t need to file a FOIA request. Or maybe requiring sending an email request is Orwellian. What is faster? Sending an email with a specific request (we won't even go into the "how do I know what to request?") or searching a website? No matter how you try and say "oh you ONLY have to do THIS" it is still an additional hoop to jump through, step to make, additional waiting time (if they don't get backed up with requests), and possible denial, away - instead of simply searching the website. Now the question is, what are they trying to hide? Cue oooooh-oooooh-wee music. ? 2
BeginnersMind Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: What is faster? Sending an email with a specific request (we won't even go into the "how do I know what to request?") or searching a website? No matter how you try and say "oh you ONLY have to do THIS" it is still an additional hoop to jump through, step to make, additional waiting time (if they don't get backed up with requests), and possible denial, away - instead of simply searching the website. Now the question is, what are they trying to hide? Cue oooooh-oooooh-wee music. ? Sounds truly Orwellian Bgal.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Funny stuff coming from a guy who served in "the most transparent administration in history" (unless you're an inspector general or a citizen of course) 2
B-Man Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 This is actually a picture of the FOIA forms that you need to fill out to see Joe's records...........? . 1
snafu Posted August 2, 2019 Author Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: Love that you got thumbs up on this. You can request the data. You don’t need to file a FOIA request. Or maybe requiring sending an email request is Orwellian. You should file a FOIA request. I’ll just do this. “Callison added that the documents are still available upon request via email to data.requests@cdcr.ca.gov.” You don't see the difference between anonymous searches for information vs. requests made to a gatekeeper who can (a) keep track of anyone who makes a request, and (b) potentially hold back information without the requester knowing it? One is less "free" than the other, no? 1 1
BeginnersMind Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, snafu said: You don't see the difference between anonymous searches for information vs. requests made to a gatekeeper who can (a) keep track of anyone who makes a request, and (b) potentially hold back information without the requester knowing it? One is less "free" than the other, no? You guys are awesome. Keep it up. The media can get the data data and publish it. Like everyone could yesterday. Not everyone one is out to get you.
B-Man Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: You guys are awesome. Keep it up. The media can get the data data and publish it. Like everyone could yesterday. Not everyone one is out to get you. You simply can't, or won't, answer the question will you ?? You can eventually get the information, but it is now a step more for you to do..........................YES or NO ? IF YOU LIKE YOUR PLAN, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PLAN: CNN Host Gets Kamala Harris To Admit She’s Taking Away Your Employer-Provided Health Insurance. 2
snafu Posted August 2, 2019 Author Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: You guys are awesome. Keep it up. The media can get the data data and publish it. Like everyone could yesterday. Not everyone one is out to get you. Who the eff are "you guys"? I am me. Others are who they are. Keep that straight. Back to your crusading, yes? This isn't a case of anyone out to "get" anyone else. It appears to clearly be a case of someone trying to protect someone else. It is an obvious move to make getting the information more difficult today than it was yesterday. I'll take your response to my question as a "no". You don't see the difference. 1
BeginnersMind Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Of course it’s harder to get today, but it doesn’t require a FOIA request like Bgal said and it’s not Orwellian. Plus this is just a data store. “These reports provide important information on demographics, sentence length, offense type, and other figures relevant to criminal justice and incarceration.” I’m sure that you were planning on compiling all this data into some good excel charts at home. The media, left and right, and campaigns left and right, can still put together any chart they want. If if you get the data, you can put it on your server and tweet the link to the world. Every act is not a boogeyman.
Doc Brown Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, B-Man said: That's true. It's the only explanation of why a Hillary/Kaine ticket and the excitement that came with it didn't carry the state by a healthy margin. 1
BeginnersMind Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: That's true. It's the only explanation of why a Hillary/Kaine ticket and the excitement that came with it didn't carry the state by a healthy margin. He must be so disappointed. A year ago, he seemed like the chosen one for 2020. Now he can't break through the top 5. Glad we're seeing why. He's desperately grasping at anything now.
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