snafu Posted July 7, 2019 Author Posted July 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: The most important part of that poll is the final question. The word socialism doesn't seem to attach to Biden which explains the discrepancy between his lead and how close everyone else is. Or.....Jeff Bezos doesn't want a president that isn't cozy to big businesses. I was looking just as much at the Trump numbers in those two polls. He gained 5 points in a month against everyone but Biden. 1 1
Doc Brown Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, snafu said: I was looking just as much at the Trump numbers in those two polls. He gained 5 points in a month against everyone but Biden. You're comparing two different polling companies with different methodologies so comparing the two over time is useless. I'm just pointing out the poll suggests that the left would be wise to run your typical neoliberal left of center candidate. Somebody that won't shake up the economy that's added jobs every month since 2010 and is more palatable than Trump. The only candidate that fits that description right now is Biden. Casting himself as moderate and the rest of the field as the far left gives him the best shot at the nomination. 1
row_33 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: You're comparing two different polling companies with different methodologies so comparing the two over time is useless. I'm just pointing out the poll suggests that the left would be wise to run your typical neoliberal left of center candidate. Somebody that won't shake up the economy that's added jobs every month since 2010 and is more palatable than Trump. The only candidate that fits that description right now is Biden. Casting himself as moderate and the rest of the field as the far left gives him the best shot at the nomination. Agreed but you think Biden has a chance when he is under this attack?
snafu Posted July 8, 2019 Author Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: You're comparing two different polling companies with different methodologies so comparing the two over time is useless. I'm just pointing out the poll suggests that the left would be wise to run your typical neoliberal left of center candidate. Somebody that won't shake up the economy that's added jobs every month since 2010 and is more palatable than Trump. The only candidate that fits that description right now is Biden. Casting himself as moderate and the rest of the field as the far left gives him the best shot at the nomination. I agree with you, but that isn’t looking like what the Party wants. But I’d also add that Trump might want Biden more than anyone. It give Trump the chance to run against the prior regime, and I think he wants that.
Doc Brown Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, row_33 said: Agreed but you think Biden has a chance when he is under this attack? Knowing him. Probably not. He'll pry apologize for ever serving in Congress by the time his campaign is through. 1 hour ago, snafu said: I agree with you, but that isn’t looking like what the Party wants. But I’d also add that Trump might want Biden more than anyone. It give Trump the chance to run against the prior regime, and I think he wants that. I won't pretend to know what goes on in that guy's head.
4merper4mer Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Hedge said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Does this make him Iron Man? 1
/dev/null Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Hedge said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! maybe he's going to announce an agreement with Iran to obtain nuclear weapons to unleash on American gun owners 1
Tiberius Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 Even Rasmussen? Wow Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread General Election: Trump vs. Biden Rasmussen Reports Biden 48, Trump 44 Biden +4 17 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Bye, Joe. He apologized (again) yesterday... a bad sign for a candidate in the lead. Joe has zero chance to win, as I've been saying for over a year. Zilch. He'd destroy Trump in general election. Trump won largely because white men hated the idea of Hillary, Biden won't have to worry about losing white men in anywhere near the numbers Hillary did, plus he has the huge backing of women. Women hate Trump!
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 After five decades in the spotlight, Biden is "under attack" by his friends and associates and seems unprepared to handle it and which way to turn. One day he's proud of his record, the next day he's apologizing for relationships he had 40 years ago. He's all over the page on Anita Hill, portraying himself as weak and wondering what might have been had he just had the courage to do the right thing. Meanwhile, the toughest criticism he's received from the opposition is that he's "sleepy". There you have the next great dem candidate for president: a sleepy octogenarian who partied with segregationists when fashionable and apologized when it was irrelevant, who has what the ladies used call "Russian eyes and Roman hands" when no one called him on it but became ultra-woke when it mattered when running for president, who has a history of wielding his political power to enrich his own family, and and has a history of plagiarizing the work(s) of others, and has been passed over on his previous runs because in part of a penchant for racist comments. Sounds about right. 1
B-Man Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 Billionaire Tom Steyer to join crowded 2020 presidential race.. Does this mean the West Coast money crowd doesn’t think Kamala Harris can pull it off? . 2
B-Man Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 Don't believe the Democrats are slaves to their hard left base? Take this quick quiz: Name just one of its 2020 candidates willing to unequivocally speak aloud this indisputable truth– that the United States is the greatest nation on earth .
Deranged Rhino Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, B-Man said: Billionaire Tom Steyer to join crowded 2020 presidential race.. Does this mean the West Coast money crowd doesn’t think Kamala Harris can pull it off? . I think it means Mr. Walnut sauce Styer is more afraid of the Epstein arrest than most others. 1
Koko78 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Trump won largely because white men hated the idea of Hillary... Wait, are we back to misogyny on the wheel of 2016 excuses? What happened to Comey, women's husbands and sons forcing them not to vote for Hillary, and Russia as the reason she lost?
Tiberius Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Wait, are we back to misogyny on the wheel of 2016 excuses? What happened to Comey, women's husbands and sons forcing them not to vote for Hillary, and Russia as the reason she lost? You don't understand the basic fact that many factors go in to just about any action, event or process? Is there one reason the Bills lost SB XXV? Huh?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You don't understand the basic fact that many factors go in to just about any action, event or process? Is there one reason the Bills lost SB XXV? Huh? But in fairness to Koko, you said the reason she lost was "largely" due to white men hating her. Was it like 90% white man hate, 3% Comey, 2% women being victimized, 2% Russians duh, and 3% white man hate (so hateful we gotta count em twice@). Sometimes I wish we could go more than 100% on these things. So much hate, so many victims. Stupid metric system. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Hedge said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! More... so sad. 1
Koko78 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Is there one reason the Bills lost SB XXV? Yes. The Giants scored more points by the end of regulation than the Bills did. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 To be fair -- it's so f'ing early, people can't be bothered. 1 2
row_33 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Yes. The Giants scored more points by the end of regulation than the Bills did. Parcells and Belichick..... never ever ever give them an even break....
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