DC Tom Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: A quick search shows several different stages where a fetus is considered to feel pain. The anti-abortion groups seem to claim there's pain at 8 weeks while the abortion enthusiasts claim it's up to 28 weeks. Others think it's about 20 weeks. The example used by Dr. Levatino was 2nd trimester which 20 weeks would fall right in the middle of that. Twenty weeks is also considered about the earliest a fetus could be viable outside the womb. Nothing in his testimony could be refuted with certainty. So there. I posted that here in response to a post by B-Man on the previous page that you responded to also. I should have quoted that in posting the Dr.'s testimony. All based on a misunderstanding of "pain" vs. "nocioception."
B-Man Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) I give up trying to keep the thread on topic and I also will listen to Dr. Levatino on this particular subject over our resident expert on all things Dr. Anthony Levatino is a board certified obstetrician-gynecologist with 40 years of medical experience. He is a physician and lawyer, and taught as associate professor of OB-GYN at Albany Medical Center, where he also served as the Medical Student Director and Residency Program Director. In the early part of his career, Dr. Levatino performed over 1,200 abortions in the first and second trimesters. Dr. Levatino has practiced obstetrics and gynecology in Florida, New York, and currently practices in New Mexico. Edited May 20, 2019 by B-Man
DC Tom Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: I give up trying to keep the thread on topic and I also will listen to Dr. Levatino on this particular subject over our resident expert on all things Dr. Anthony Levatino is a board certified obstetrician-gynecologist with 40 years of medical experience. He is a physician and lawyer, and taught as associate professor of OB-GYN at Albany Medical Center, where he also served as the Medical Student Director and Residency Program Director. In the early part of his career, Dr. Levatino performed over 1,200 abortions in the first and second trimesters. Dr. Levatino has practiced obstetrics and gynecology in Florida, New York, and currently practices in New Mexico. He's calling a reaction to stimulus "pain" with no evidence. You'll listen to him because he reinforces your preconceived notions. That's all. He's still wrong.
B-Man Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: He's calling a reaction to stimulus "pain" with no evidence. You'll listen to him because he reinforces your preconceived notions. That's all. He's still wrong. Thomas, I will defer to you and your expertise at preconceived notions ............................. I guess the democrat Boycott Fox movement doesn't match the need for exposure...................?
3rdnlng Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Swalwell looks like a more punchable Dennis Quaid. Yes, I'd like to give him a little "nocioception" right to his nose. Edited May 20, 2019 by 3rdnlng
DC Tom Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Yes, I'd like to give him a little "nocioception" right to his nose. You sure it wouldn't just be a stimulus? I mean...this is Swalwell...
Koko78 Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Is anyone at the Town Hall going to ask Swalwell about his plan to nuke proponents of the 2nd Amendment?
3rdnlng Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You sure it wouldn't just be a stimulus? I mean...this is Swalwell... No, kicking him in the ass (literally) would probably be a real stimulus for him.
B-Man Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 OF COURSE SHE DOES AND OF COURSE IT IS: Kamala Harris Has a Plan to Close the ‘Gender Pay Gap’—and It’s Completely Unworkable. How long will de Blasio drag out his presidential farce? Original Article .
row_33 Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, B-Man said: OF COURSE SHE DOES AND OF COURSE IT IS: Kamala Harris Has a Plan to Close the ‘Gender Pay Gap’—and It’s Completely Unworkable. How long will de Blasio drag out his presidential farce? Original Article . he wants to build a warchest for future campaigns and other outlets 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 1 27 minutes ago, B-Man said: OF COURSE SHE DOES AND OF COURSE IT IS: Kamala Harris Has a Plan to Close the ‘Gender Pay Gap’—and It’s Completely Unworkable. What a coincidence, so do I! It is called stop getting Gender Studies degrees and get a STEM degree instead! This old trope is ridiculous. If women were paid 20% less than men at the same job, no publicly held corporate would hire a man. The stockholders would revolt as an easy way to save 20% off the bottom line would be to hire only women. There are plenty of studies that show male/female wage scales are the same (or skew slightly higher toward women) within a field; simply look at nursing, medical doctors, civil engineering, etc to see that women with the same experience and same degree, make the same amount. Now if the discussion is why do women disproportionately put their careers on hold and take over childcare, well that is a different conversation. 1
reddogblitz Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: What a coincidence, so do I! It is called stop getting Gender Studies degrees and get a STEM degree instead! This old trope is ridiculous. If women were paid 20% less than men at the same job, no publicly held corporate would hire a man. The stockholders would revolt as an easy way to save 20% off the bottom line would be to hire only women. There are plenty of studies that show male/female wage scales are the same (or skew slightly higher toward women) within a field; simply look at nursing, medical doctors, civil engineering, etc to see that women with the same experience and same degree, make the same amount. Now if the discussion is why do women disproportionately put their careers on hold and take over childcare, well that is a different conversation. One thing about this is sometimes mentioned but not often. I found out about it when I got a job offer and watched a few videos about salary negotiation on youtube. Seems women don't negotiate for salary near as often as men. If you start with less because you didn't negotiate a good deal, you'll be stuck with less for the whole time you are that company. Should be an easy fix. 1
row_33 Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: One thing about this is sometimes mentioned but not often. I found out about it when I got a job offer and watched a few videos about salary negotiation on youtube. Seems women don't negotiate for salary near as often as men. If you start with less because you didn't negotiate a good deal, you'll be stuck with less for the whole time you are that company. Should be an easy fix. and then your only raise will come from exceptional work or first finding another offer and they want to retain your services
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 I get the sense that Kim doesn't care for Joe Biden. I am sure it is because he'll be lots tougher on North Korea, so they fear Creepy Uncle Joe. North Korean Media Lashes Out at ‘Reckless, Senseless’ Biden As the 2020 U.S. presidential race heats up, North Korea’s official KCNA news agency has jumped into the fray, calling aspiring Democratic contender Joe Biden a "snob bereft of elementary quality as human being". "He is self-praising himself as being the most popular presidential candidate. This is enough to make a cat laugh," the agency writes in a commentary piece that also denigrates Biden for his university grades and for falling asleep at a speech by President Barack Obama in 2011. KCNA also called the former vice president a "fool of low IQ" and said he "had the temerity to insult the supreme leadership" of North Korea at a recent campaign event. </snip> 2
reddogblitz Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, row_33 said: and then your only raise will come from exceptional work or first finding another offer and they want to retain your services My corporate experience tells me that probably won't even do that much for you. All raises are based on a percentage of your salary. Even when you get promoted to a higher level they'll just bump you up like 4%. You may get a bonus now and then but nothing to significantly change your income. I always now tell young people they need to negotiate the best deal they can because all future raises will depend on that. 1
row_33 Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: My corporate experience tells me that probably won't even do that much for you. All raises are based on a percentage of your salary. Even when you get promoted to a higher level they'll just bump you up like 4%. You may get a bonus now and then but nothing to significantly change your income. I always now tell young people they need to negotiate the best deal they can because all future raises will depend on that. you have no pull on salary for your first job you cannot contribute: 1) capital to invest in the company 2) a book of business you are bringing 3) the experience to do the things well that nobody else wants to do just relax and work hard and learn and build up the other 3 things for later on... 1
snafu Posted May 22, 2019 Author Posted May 22, 2019 6 hours ago, B-Man said: How long will de Blasio drag out his presidential farce? Original Article . For ever. Book it.
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