Reed83HOF Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: If this even happens...... I would bet my left AND right nut the highest pick will be a 3rd.....even that is pushing it imo So how do we make sure you follow through with this? As you know on TBD we like proof and can't take anyone's word for it... 1
Jerome007 Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: If this even happens...... I would bet my left AND right nut the highest pick will be a 3rd.....even that is pushing it imo Well get ready to cut them off unless the Bills are that dumb. You realize the Eagles need this and want this way more than the Bills, right? They are in a NOW phase that should make them "overpay". As for the Bills, keeping the offense star and team captain could be a tad more important than settling for a mere 3rd round pick! If they want to protect Allen and not lose the locker room - all that worth more again than a measly 3rd round pick! The Bills already have plenty of picks and superstars like Shady don't come often. 4
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 This is already a problem with McCoy on the team. 1
RochesterRob Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I think it is a pipe dream that the Bills would get a 2nd round pick. A 3rd is more likely, but I'm guessing it will fetch a 4th only given his age No point in moving McCoy for a forth and please remember that the Eagles are the ones coming with hat in hand not the Bills. The Eagles figure that McCoy is the piece that they need for a SB therefore making him worth more. 1
snamsnoops Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 3 hours ago, eball said: Funny how folks can't see this. The key phrase is "a guy you don't have to or want to trade." The Bills have absolutely no need or desire to trade Shady unless somebody is offering something stupid. He's a captain. He's still capable of playing at a very high level on a team devoid of offense. He has bought in to McD's culture. He will help Allen. My prediction is that this (trade) doesn't happen. I hear ya, just it would be really tough if they offered a 2nd or better.....Which i don't think they will...
ddaryl Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 If the Bills don't get Philly's highest 2nd rd pick at minimum, the deal will not happen. Top RB, still has moves and has a contract that is very palatable for Philly to boot, and on top of that has familiarity with the team.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Beane and McDermott might also want to see how Ivory does with 12+ carries too. See if he can have another strong game. Ivory is in no way a replacement for McCoy. Ivory is your grinder, the guy who can plunge into a mess and come out with 2-4 yards from nothing, just legs and grit. Shady is the guy who can slither his way through the hole and be gone. As a 1-2 punch they're terrific. I will be very upset if the Bills trade Shady for anything, though I do understand if someone stacks up the coins high enough, almost anything has its price. But if they let him go at any kind of fire sale discount I will be cussing. A hot dog and a used pretzel? Get Out of Town! 4
Augie Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ivory is in no way a replacement for McCoy. Ivory is your grinder, the guy who can plunge into a mess and come out with 2-4 yards from nothing, just legs and grit. Shady is the guy who can slither his way through the hole and be gone. As a 1-2 punch they're terrific. I will be very upset if the Bills trade Shady for anything, though I do understand if someone stacks up the coins high enough, almost anything has its price. But if they let him go at any kind of fire sale discount I will be cussing. A hot dog and a used pretzel? Get Out of Town! Almost anything has it’s price...except a Franchise QB. Your don’t part with that. A difference maker like K. Mack might also be on the list, but it’s a short list, if the price is right.
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 If they do end up trading McCoy, I'd shoot for a Ivory/Tevin Coleman duo next year. We gotta spend the money somewhere and I'd rather pay for solid talent than overpay for unworthy WRs......
Gugny Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ivory is in no way a replacement for McCoy. Ivory is your grinder, the guy who can plunge into a mess and come out with 2-4 yards from nothing, just legs and grit. Shady is the guy who can slither his way through the hole and be gone. As a 1-2 punch they're terrific. I will be very upset if the Bills trade Shady for anything, though I do understand if someone stacks up the coins high enough, almost anything has its price. But if they let him go at any kind of fire sale discount I will be cussing. A hot dog and a used pretzel? Get Out of Town! Totally agree re: Ivory. But I think Murphy can be a decent replacement for McCoy. Let's not pretend this team is doing anything this year. Not moving McCoy if someone wants to cough up a third, to me, would be irresponsible.
Chuck Wagon Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 If they are willing to give up a day 2 pick, we should do it without thinking twice. I think some people are overlooking that Shady could still be facing a suspension for the trouble that's gone on with his ex. The league is wildly unpredictable when it comes to situations like that and I wouldn't be shocked to see him handed a 6 game suspension ala Elliott at some point. I get the leadership Shady provides to the team, but I think most involved are pretty realistic about the situation.
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: So how do we make sure you follow through with this? As you know on TBD we like proof and can't take anyone's word for it... I would never have to anyways......noone is giving up more than a 3rd for a 30 yr RB no matter how desperate. 1
ddaryl Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: So it's not happening. That's a crazy asking price. No its not a crazy asking price. Its the bare minimum.. I can't believe anyone would think its a crazy price. Eagles are desperate to defend their SB season the Bills are not and have little motivation to make this trade unless its a great deal for them. Edited October 10, 2018 by ddaryl 2
MAJBobby Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 The have Multiple 2nds. So sending one of them off for McCoy is NOT out of the question
McBean Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 After this press conference, IMO, McCoy is getting traded. No doubt about it.
Dan Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 If the Bills FO trades their ONLY offensive player that has any chance to make a defense game plan for, then they should just be truthful to the fanbase and openly admit that the the current goal in 2018 is not to win games. And anything less than a 1st for Shady, to a team as desperate as the Eagles, should not be considered. 1
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