BobbyC81 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 5 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Who is Josh Reed? Philly's Dunkirk Don? Former Bills' wide receiver?
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Former Bills' wide receiver? Nope. Josh Reed is a sports reporter on channel 4 in Buffalo Edited October 9, 2018 by YoloinOhio
ghostwriter Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, dubs said: Hahaha! What!?!? We already had this lesson. Lesson? What lesson? If you pick #64, what kind of prospects will be available? 2nd round prospects or 3rd round prospects? Yes, a bunch of 3rd round prospects will be on the board. I thought you were supposed to be smart? Why are you making me spell it out to you? Can't you read between the lines?
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: If I were Beane I would not even consider what they are talking about. Sounds like the Philly guys expect the Bills to be the proverbial country rube that just fell off of the turnip truck. 2 2
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: If I were Beane I would not even consider what they are talking about. Sounds like the Philly guys expect the Bills to be the proverbial country rube that just fell off of the turnip truck. They still think his value is a one-kneed Kiko
BobbyC81 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: The Super Bowl window is very small for any team not in New England. If the Eagles believe a guy like McCoy could get them back there, which they might regardless of its veracity, they will overpay, and maybe by a lot. That doesn’t mean they believe McCoy is the missing link but it’s possible. Nfl trades, for some reason, are very often not for what a player is really worth. It’s often for way more or way less. I think Pittsburgh is ready to move on from L.Bell and he ends up in Philly.
NewEra Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: Oh, it's been done before. And it’s about time one of our newly hired regimes gives it a try. Sometimes rebuild work. Sometimes they don’t. I’d like to give it a shot for once. 1 minute ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: I think Pittsburgh is ready to move on from L.Bell and he ends up in Philly. The big problem there is money. They’re already 20 mill over the cap for next season. Shadys hit is pretty big for a rb but bell is going to double it. Not sure they’d be able to make it work and still keep the prices needed to contend
John from Riverside Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: And it’s about time one of our newly hired regimes gives it a try. Sometimes rebuild work. Sometimes they don’t. I’d like to give it a shot for once. The big problem there is money. They’re already 20 mill over the cap for next season. Shadys hit is pretty big for a rb but bell is going to double it. Not sure they’d be able to make it work and still keep the prices needed to contend How about a 2nd next year and a 3rd the next? A 2nd round pick could net us a decent OL or a WR (or gasp....maybe a TIGHT END!)
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: I think Pittsburgh is ready to move on from L.Bell and he ends up in Philly. Not as simple as what you are talking. I don't think that Philly has a lot of cap room currently and definitely has cap issues for 2019. Bell is holding out for a big contract and he would want some firm assurances to go to Philly starting today that he gets paid what he wants in terms of salary.
BillsFan4 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Nope. Josh Reed is a sports reporter on channel 4 in Buffalo I would be beyond pissed off if the Bills accepted a 4th for Shady. But I cant imagine them doing that. Honestly, as far as I’m concerned, anything less than a 2nd and they can take a hike, and really, I’d want the rumored 2nd + 3rd. Or a 2nd + decent player. A 3rd is probably fair value, but IMO it’s just not worth it to trade McCoy for a (most likely late) 3rd round pick. 2
Your Brown Eye Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 for a 1st I'll personally drive him to philly
Prickly Pete Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 I would only take a wr, or Olineman. I want a player. An above average one, not some rookies that might develop by 2022.
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 How about Shady for Dallas GoJoeDirt lol? It would solve the TE of the future dilema although i can't see Philly going for it
billsfan_34 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Logic said: I'm pretty torn about this. On the one hand, the Bills have already pretty much stripped the offense to the nubs. Getting one more good draft pick in exchange for a player who likely won't be around when the Bills are ready for prime time potentially makes sense. On the other hand, McCoy is a locker room leader, a team captain, and has a great relationship with Allen. Taking away the ONE good offensive player the Bills have -- and thus making life even HARDER on their rookie QB -- might be a foolhardy move. The question, of course, is what would the compensation be? Anything less than a 2nd rounder (which I doubt the Eagles would be willing to part with) probably isn't worth it. Why? Because, again, you don't want to make Allen's difficult development even MORE difficult by stripping him of another good offensive player and a mentor/leader in the locker room. Valid points all the way around. Risking losing the locker room is too great and Allen needs him. The only way you do this is by setting a huge ransom- the Eagles wanna make another run and may pay a hefty price- time will tell.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Sounds as though someone is all inspired by the thought that we slung Mr Big Stuff out of town for a conditional fifth, and figures we'd do the same for Shady. I think the Dareus trade was a bad idea and a fire sale, but apparently he and McDermott just couldn't get along and it did clear cap. That's not at all true from what we know about Shady. Trading Shady even for a 2nd round pick would under-represent his value to the team IMO. Trading him for a 4th with a 5th back would be nucking futz
hondo in seattle Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 5 hours ago, bmur66 said: Without Shady the Bills really have no product to put on the table this year. Ain’t happening. If you think this year matters. I think Beane cares more about future years.
MJS Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: If I were Beane I would not even consider what they are talking about. Sounds like the Philly guys expect the Bills to be the proverbial country rube that just fell off of the turnip truck. That's what the value of an old running back is. McCoy is FAR more valuable on the team than dealing him for a late round pick.
BobbyC81 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I would be beyond pissed off if the Bills accepted a 4th for Shady. But I cant imagine them doing that. Could you have imagined the trade of Marshawn Lynch in his prime for what they got for him? A 4th and a 5th?
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, MJS said: That's what the value of an old running back is. McCoy is FAR more valuable on the team than dealing him for a late round pick. To any other team, yes, but McCoy has far more value to the Eagles. 1
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